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#61 shootER5

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 2135 PM

Brit pilots coming aboard a US carrier could be forgiven for asking 'Which runway?' when cleared to trap. :P

I'd like to see video of A-3s going aboard an Essex class carrier.

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 0708 AM

Thanks! 😄 All Whale ops on the old flattops were a bit awe-inspiring. Movement around the flight deck was known as the elephant dance.

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 0929 AM

I wonder what the limits were for those. Full speed with wind across (down) the deck?


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Posted 12 June 2018 - 1218 PM

I'm not sure how much traction the A-29 ("Skyraider for the 21st century") would have in being accepted by the US military. Being assigned to SOCOM might be a foot in the door.

 

For the USMC it would endanger the F-35B (or the B just eats all the money?) and for USN and USAF they are not supersonic enough and NIH anyway. See also the continious attemps to kill the A-10 for an example of a useful bird being endangered despite being useful.

 

 

For the actual needs on the ground they would certainly be welcome. A tuboprop costs a fraction of a jet to operate and can be based close to theatre to have more time on station above battelfields. They are also much cheaper to operate than all the Apaches that the US Army flies. And easier to fly than helicopters as well. Making training pilots cheaper.

 

 

 

 

another offering for a smaller cheaper ground combat aeroplane is from Stavatti Aerospace with their SM-27 planes in either jet or turboprop flavors:

 

http://www.stavatti.com/aircraft/


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#65 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 1233 PM

You idly wonder if giving them to the Army is the answer, or at least having the SOCOM community pay for it.

 

Incidentally, I was just looking at this link, has anyone heard about this AT802 that is reputedly flown by the US special forces community?

 

https://sofrep.com/4...ds-best-pilots/


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Posted 12 June 2018 - 1539 PM

Is it just to train foreign foreign forces? They had a unit down in Florida that had a BT67 and various other oddballs and was mostly tasked with that.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ations_Squadron


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 0959 AM

Oh I like it. Its like a mini me Air America. :)


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 1635 PM

Is it just to train foreign foreign forces? They had a unit down in Florida that had a BT67 and various other oddballs and was mostly tasked with that.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ations_Squadron

 

I think it is this. To train foereign buyers of the armed and dangerous air tractor. Same as foreign buyers of german MEKO frigates train at Deutsche Marine schools for example. Or you get to flight school in France when buying Rafale. Quite common practice.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 1659 PM

 

Is it just to train foreign foreign forces? They had a unit down in Florida that had a BT67 and various other oddballs and was mostly tasked with that.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ations_Squadron

 

I think it is this. To train foereign buyers of the armed and dangerous air tractor. Same as foreign buyers of german MEKO frigates train at Deutsche Marine schools for example. Or you get to flight school in France when buying Rafale. Quite common practice.

 

Does the Luftwaffe still train in Arizona with German-owned, US marked aircraft?


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 1813 PM

 

 

Is it just to train foreign foreign forces? They had a unit down in Florida that had a BT67 and various other oddballs and was mostly tasked with that.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ations_Squadron

 

I think it is this. To train foereign buyers of the armed and dangerous air tractor. Same as foreign buyers of german MEKO frigates train at Deutsche Marine schools for example. Or you get to flight school in France when buying Rafale. Quite common practice.

 

Does the Luftwaffe still train in Arizona with German-owned, US marked aircraft?

 

 

German marked.

 

http://www.holloman....rman-Air-Force/


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 2130 PM

Were USAF markings only for American built aircraft?
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Posted 15 June 2018 - 0740 AM

Were USAF markings only for American built aircraft?

 

AFAIK pilots in flight school attend flight training on the T-38 and T-6 in USAF aeroplanes at USAF schools. The Luftwaffe does not have any trainer aircraft of their own anymore. Okay the double seater EuFis for Eufi training, but learning to fly they learn mostly in the USA.

 

 

The Tornados parked in the US are German owned of course.


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Posted Yesterday, 07:07 PM

The enemy is the USAF and has always been.
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