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#1 Colin

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 0213 AM

https://www.berthon....Kl1L1wM#tab3Tab


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#2 Ken Estes

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 0351 AM

Good news at last! Thanks, Colin.


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#3 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 0506 AM

Be nice to get the E boat finished to keep her company.


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Posted 06 June 2020 - 0741 AM

How did those fare vs. E-Boats? 

 

They were seriously slower than E-Boats and I'd suspect petrol engines vs. diesel engines were a fire hazard in gunbattle.


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#5 Colin

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 1434 PM

The E-boats were larger and more capable in a seaway, eventually most of the MGB role was taken over by Fairmiles that were larger than the E-boats. A lot of the success in battles was a case of who spotted who first. 


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#6 Sardaukar

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Posted 07 June 2020 - 0739 AM

I just don't get the idea of using petrol engines. Lack of suitable diesels?

 

But then, Germany didn't develope good diesel engine for tanks either...so...


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Posted 07 June 2020 - 0945 AM

I just don't get the idea of using petrol engines. Lack of suitable diesels?

 

But then, Germany didn't develope good diesel engine for tanks either...so...

 

My understanding is that countries went for aircraft engine derived power plants because they were looking for high output with low weight.  Even the original, WWI German boats were called L-boats, later renamed LM-boats (Luftschiffmotorenboote), so-called because they were powered by the same engines used in the Zeppelin airships.  So you'd expect petrol to be the norm.

 

Getting diesels to work in that environment was difficult.  Even the Germans had issues: they found that the MAN diesels that worked well in U-boats were failures in E-boats and, vice-versa, the Daimler Benz E-boat diesels failed in U-boats. The E-boats kept to the DB designs, even though they had to be removed from the boat and sent back to a workshop for any major repairs (IIRC, a big drawback compared to the more easily maintained MAN engines).


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#8 MiloMorai

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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1110 AM

"Fairmiles that were larger than the E-boats"

 

About 7ft longer but about 17mph slower despite about 1000 more hp.


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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1143 AM

Indeed.

 

Fairmiles were into 25 knots, E-boats to 43.5 knots.


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#10 RETAC21

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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1246 PM

Be nice to get the E boat finished to keep her company.

 

There was one, but it seems restoration got nowhere:

 

https://intheboatshe...ng-commissions/

 

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#11 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1258 PM

Belongs to the Wheatcroft collection apparently. I'm glad they are taking their time actually, she isn't just historically significant for surviving. She took part in the Slapton Sands attack, and was used post-war by MI6 for agent running to Eastern Europe.
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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1333 PM

I get the impression that the naval war on the gunboat/coastal level in Europe was an intensive one. It would not surprise me if the losses of boats of this size on both sides were high.


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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1443 PM

This is worth a read.

https://www.squadron34.com/pt509
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#14 RETAC21

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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1456 PM

I get the impression that the naval war on the gunboat/coastal level in Europe was an intensive one. It would not surprise me if the losses of boats of this size on both sides were high.

 

It was intensive but much less deadly than it appears. Targets grew in size at night...


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Posted 07 June 2020 - 1705 PM

Rammed and crushed by a German minesweeper. Perhaps indicative of the kind of aggressive messing about in boats being conducted by both sides all along the coastal areas of the channel and the Mediterranean.

 

Confusion and panic must have grown at night as well. Slapton Sands comes to mind.


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