More new camo uniforms?
Posted 16 June 2009 - 0827 AM
Geez, how many patterns do we really need?
Posted 16 June 2009 - 0916 AM
Geez, how many patterns do we really need?
Has Congress ever told the military that they needed a new uniform before?
Any idea what these uniforms will be (especially since I am probably going to Afghanistan before the year is over)?
Posted 16 June 2009 - 1011 AM
Maybe this will be the push (shove) to get Multi-Cam adopted finally?
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Oddly, I always thought that the ACU pattern fit better in rocky A-stan than dusty Iraq. But whatever...
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 1820 PM
I like the ACU, I think it is excellent at concealing a soldier in a low light level enviroment.
Must be why all the mole people in the bowels on the Pentagon are wearing them.
Posted 16 June 2009 - 1918 PM
Seems shit-house everywhere else though...
I've always been surprised by how good the Australian DPCU (original green, not desert clown suit) works in middle-eastern environments, seeing it in Somalia and Afghanistan it actually seems perfect.
I'd love to see a properly done digital version of it. There are some civvy versions but the colours and the colour balance is completely off.
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Multicam has a large splochy pattern but the sploches fade from one color to another like green to gold to pink and it has smaller sand and black sploches over that. The effect is that it looks as good as any other pattern at close range and at long range it takes on the predominate color of the surrounding land whether that is green, sand, reddish-brown or grey. The real genius is that at medium ranges the blending has a hazzy look that is hard to make out. It is also as you can imagine, IR suppressant. It was one of the top four patterns designed to replace the BDU. If I had to discribe it I'd say Multicam is the last and best of the splochy cammo patterns.
As far as I know no US unit has been issued Multicam except for testing but sales look to be brisk to those operators who want the very best. No my daughter will not be in Multicam she will be wearing her USMC issue MARPAT, I'll let you guys know which works better. I kid you not this Multicam pattern is better than any other pattern that I have seen anywhere, ever, I'll let you guys know if it keeps me from being shot Saturday.
Edited by George Newbill, 16 June 2009 - 2232 PM.
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 2231 PM
I like the ACU, I think it is excellent at concealing a soldier in a low light level enviroment. It breaks the pattern up nicely.
Anything that does not have high contrast colors (like the old BDUs) will do that. The problem with it is in full daylight conditions and in any environment that isn't grayish concrete, it stands out like a sore thumb.
The digital pattern is just military fashion. It does nothing to electronic sensors and serves no practical purpose other than "look hi-tech".
Posted 16 June 2009 - 2246 PM
Surely multi-cam looks like shyte in woodland areas outside of autumn as badly as ACU?
Not enough green. Even an auscam DPCU in places like the sollies and Timor stands out a bit in the wet season, I can only imagine what an ACU or Multicam looks like in a jungle environment! :eek:
Just found this pic: (The guy lit up like a chem-light is in multicam)
Edited by Luke_Yaxley, 16 June 2009 - 2254 PM.
Posted 17 June 2009 - 0803 AM
I wiki'ed ACU and came up with this gem:
"The Urban Track pattern, which had received the poorest ratings in visual detection from the Natick Soldier Center's testing, was nevertheless modified and selected as the basis for the Army's Universal Camouflage Pattern. The pattern was digitized and the color black was removed entirely. Soldiers have reported that while the pattern is effective in an urban or desert environment, it is less effective in others, particularly jungle and tropical terrain. As the U.S. Army is currently involved in the Middle-East, the uniform may have been biased towards the current operating environments."
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