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#17121 Roman Alymov

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 0400 AM

P.S. Self-explaining photo from recent march in Kiev. Poroshenko behind bars....

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And note it got nothing to do with "massive confiscation of Russian owned assets"  - but with Poroshenko's business empire.



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Posted 16 December 2017 - 0636 AM

Nice mistake of pro-Ukrainian (owned by Minister of Interior Avakov, ex-PM Yatsenuk) TV channel naming Putin "President of Ukraine"
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Posted 16 December 2017 - 0708 AM

https://en.censor.ne..._horbatiuk_says

Interpol cancels arrest warrants for most Yanukovych’s accomplices, prosecutor Horbatiuk says

 

earlier

https://www.kyivpost...anted-list.html

Interpol removes Yanukovych, others from wanted list; corrupt ‘escape justice’

 

I will be not surprised to see Yanukovich in Paris....



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Posted 16 December 2017 - 1245 PM

 

 

Not so long ago one of Ukrainian TV channels asked audience "If you faced with choice  - to elect previous criminal power (Yanukovich & Co  -RA) or current criminal one (Poroshenko&Co - RA) - how would you vote?" Red answers (92%) "Vote for previous power", black - 8%-   "for current one".

Not surprised. When the new boss is the same as the old boss you might as well go back to the old one.

 



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Posted 16 December 2017 - 1722 PM

No. American puppet is much worse.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 1835 PM

No. American puppet is much worse.

If you mean Pres. Poroshenko, then it is not as simple as that. Surely Poroshenko is dependent on US, but he (and people he represent) got own interests, that are not always in line with US ones. US interests are having Ukraine as useful, functional and cheap-to-operate tool against Russia. Ideally, having Ukraine fight against Russia until last Ukrainian without  or with little external funding. And initially it seems like working plan - Ukraine got huge stocks of Soviet weapons and ammunition that were enough for decades of low-intensity war ( or few years of high intensity one), population still big enough, remains of post-Soviet economy allowing it to be more or less self-funding for couple of decades before final collapse etc. Visa-free regime in combination with open border with Russia became safety valve against new Maidans as everybody dissatisfied with current situation too badly could easily leave to Poland or Russia or Portugal to start new life there. But USians failed to take human nature in calculation  - Ukrainian oligarchs and "activists" got own interests and they do not really want to die under Russian bombs, and they use war as opportunity for more looting of Ukraine (see PM Yarsenuk making USD 1bln in one year as Prime minister, see Maidan stars like Mustafa Naem buying expensive housing - and it is only visible parts of their income). So USians see Ukraine "loosing blood" too quickly (both in terms of economy and population leaving) and soon expected to became fully dependent on Western funding - it is huge money, only ~13 mln pensioners for ~6-10 mln working persons paying taxes, 15 nuclear power stations running out of allowed work time etc. Attempts to impose stricter measures of control (like man without citizenship Saakashvilly or extrajudicial "corruption courts") are to bring Ukraine elite back under control  of US, but Ukrainian oligarchs are smart people  - and people who, despite of their clownfish look, are in fact criminal bosses familiar with killing and living in danger of being killed, so they clearly see US hand weakening due to internal disarray in US, so they dare to disobey US order, preferring to play own game and expecting extra rewards (or extra pressure) from US to follow US interests.


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Posted 16 December 2017 - 1922 PM

Russia to call back Russian Army officers now working in Joint observation and stabilization mission, following repeated provocations from Ukrainian servicemen . May be indication of another conflict intensification brewing (taking into consideration that even during Debaltsevo Russian officers of Joint observation and stabilization mission were staying there and only left with retreating Ukrainian Army regional HQ)



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Posted 16 December 2017 - 2023 PM

NG pipelines and recent Baumgarten fire

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Posted Yesterday, 04:46 AM

Dirty Rus provocation obviously.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:59 AM

You say that like you think its impossible.



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Posted Yesterday, 06:47 AM

You say that like you think its impossible.

Everything is going according to Putin's plan ^)

More predictions coming into life: Ukrainian nationalist, former Rada member and one of organisers of "Aidar" volunteer battalion - "Maidan was coup organized by Russia to disintegrate Ukraine. There was no need to chase Yanukovich out of country as elections were coming anyway."
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Posted Yesterday, 11:44 AM

Pro-Russia troops' firearms modifications.

 

A SVD converted to bullpup configuration with a wooden stock:

 

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An AK and an SKS hybridized into a bullpup:

 

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And workshop made sound suppressors:

 

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Posted Yesterday, 12:44 PM



 



No. American puppet is much worse.

If you mean Pres. Poroshenko, then it is not as simple as that. Surely Poroshenko is dependent on US, but he (and people he represent) got own interests, that are not always in line with US ones. US interests are having Ukraine as useful, functional and cheap-to-operate tool against Russia. Ideally, having Ukraine fight against Russia until last Ukrainian without  or with little external funding. And initially it seems like working plan - Ukraine got huge stocks of Soviet weapons and ammunition that were enough for decades of low-intensity war ( or few years of high intensity one), population still big enough, remains of post-Soviet economy allowing it to be more or less self-funding for couple of decades before final collapse etc. Visa-free regime in combination with open border with Russia became safety valve against new Maidans as everybody dissatisfied with current situation too badly could easily leave to Poland or Russia or Portugal to start new life there. But USians failed to take human nature in calculation  - Ukrainian oligarchs and "activists" got own interests and they do not really want to die under Russian bombs, and they use war as opportunity for more looting of Ukraine (see PM Yarsenuk making USD 1bln in one year as Prime minister, see Maidan stars like Mustafa Naem buying expensive housing - and it is only visible parts of their income). So USians see Ukraine "loosing blood" too quickly (both in terms of economy and population leaving) and soon expected to became fully dependent on Western funding - it is huge money, only ~13 mln pensioners for ~6-10 mln working persons paying taxes, 15 nuclear power stations running out of allowed work time etc. Attempts to impose stricter measures of control (like man without citizenship Saakashvilly or extrajudicial "corruption courts") are to bring Ukraine elite back under control  of US, but Ukrainian oligarchs are smart people  - and people who, despite of their clownfish look, are in fact criminal bosses familiar with killing and living in danger of being killed, so they clearly see US hand weakening due to internal disarray in US, so they dare to disobey US order, preferring to play own game and expecting extra rewards (or extra pressure) from US to follow US interests.

 

What went wrong was team Hillary lost the election and Trump doesn't care about Kiev policy one way or the other.



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Posted Today, 04:18 AM

What went wrong was team Hillary lost the election and Trump doesn't care about Kiev policy one way or the other.

 

 

 

I’m not sure it is correct description of events, as US representatives seems to be working hard to control their subordinates in Ukrainian politics – but it also looks like they lack leverage to influence them. Their current failure was unexpected to them – as people like Poroshenko were ideal choice by Western logic to be appointed as President of Ukraine (successful businesspersons, fluent English, experience in Gov on ministerial positions, children in British schools etc) – so him becoming Yanukovich #2 was surprise for them (while quite expected for observers in Russia). Now USians are rumored to be training new generation of politicians (like popular Ukrainian singer Vakarchuk) into candidates to replace existing politicians, but it will not fix economy anyway.



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Posted Today, 05:39 AM

http://nationalinter...e-us-body-23622

"Russian Army Snipers Have Rifles and Ammo That Can Pierce U.S. Body Armor"

 

Not sure about "Russian Army Snipers" but below id Serbian volunteer Dejan "Deki" Berich talking about his T-5000 rifle (gift from Zakharchenko, head of DNR)






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