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#1141 Adam Peter

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 0529 AM

Tyndall Air Force Base a ‘Complete Loss’ Amid Questions About Stealth Fighters

 

 

Tyndall is home to 55 F-22 stealth fighters, which cost a dizzying $339 million each. Before the storm, the Air Force sent at least 33 of the fighters to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.

Air Force officials have not disclosed the whereabouts of the remaining 22 planes, other than to say that a number of aircraft were left at the base because of maintenance or safety reasons.

An Air Force spokeswoman, Maj. Malinda Singleton, would not confirm that any of the aircraft left behind were F-22s.

But photos and video from the wreckage of the base showed the distinctive contours of the F-22’s squared tail fins and angled vertical stabilizers amid a jumble of rubble in the base’s largest building, Hangar 5. Another photo shows the distinctive jet in a smaller hangar that had its doors and a wall ripped off by wind.

 

22 planes out of 55 planes were out of service?

 

Edit: pictures and video shot from a stormchaser helicopter: https://www.business...-f-22s-2018-10/


Edited by Adam Peter, 13 October 2018 - 0531 AM.

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#1142 CaptLuke

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 0949 AM

Tyndall Air Force Base a ‘Complete Loss’ Amid Questions About Stealth Fighters

 

22 planes out of 55 planes were out of service?

 

Edit: pictures and video shot from a stormchaser helicopter: https://www.business...-f-22s-2018-10/

 

Good catch and thanks for posting.

 

Interestingly the 49% average availability rate quoted in the article would have resulted in 28 grounded planes (vs. 33 that flew), though presumably that 49% includes combat system failures that don't affect the flight systems.

 

More seriously, it's another reminder that, while stealth aircraft may have great advantages in the air, on the ground they are no less vulnerable than any other kind of plane.  Whether it is Hurricane Michael or the attack on Camp Bastion, the implications for possible future wars are clear.


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 1059 AM

If they write off 22, isn't that 10% of the fleet?
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Posted 13 October 2018 - 1515 PM

If they write off 22, isn't that 10% of the fleet?

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#1145 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 0229 AM

Its worth remembering, the F15 had an even worse availability when it entered service. I think they were down to 36 percent availability in places.

 

OTOH, for an aircraft thats been in service since 2005, it sucks. Maybe they shouldnt have put a ban on exports?


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 1429 PM

But if they didn’t ban exports then other countries would know how much it sucks. :-)
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Posted 15 October 2018 - 0213 AM

:D

 

 

Maybe, and this is pure speculation on my part, maybe its the USAF doing what we have been doing, allowing current capabilities to lapse to afford the future. Then when the future arrives, allowing that to lapse to afford another future. Its seems fairly popular to do things like that these days.


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Posted 16 October 2018 - 1247 PM

If they write off 22, isn't that 10% of the fleet?

 

It's not the first time something like this happened...

 

http://www.airforcem...016/1016b36.pdf


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