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#41 Rod

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 2120 PM

Meanwhile in Benghazi, Libya a lucky motorist is not blown up when mortar fails to detonate. I wonder if he will call the local roadside assistance and tell them he has a flat tire that needs changing.

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#42 Simon Tan

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 2141 PM

Y'all know that Hilux isn't made in Japan...right?


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#43 DKTanker

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 1442 PM

ISIS flags now flying over government buildings in Derna, Libya.  Since the US led to the breaking of Libya, is the US now obligated to fixing Libya to include ousting ISIS?


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#44 Mr King

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 1534 PM

ISIS flags now flying over government buildings in Derna, Libya.  Since the US led to the breaking of Libya, is the US now obligated to fixing Libya to include ousting ISIS?

 

No, no, I am sure our "moderate" jihadi allies there will rise up any minute now  to stomp ISIS presence from Libya.  


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#45 Marcello

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 1437 PM

Wonderful


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#46 Paul G.

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Posted 14 February 2015 - 1449 PM

 

ISIS flags now flying over government buildings in Derna, Libya.  Since the US led to the breaking of Libya, is the US now obligated to fixing Libya to include ousting ISIS?

 

No, no, I am sure our "moderate" jihadi allies there will rise up any minute now  to stomp ISIS presence from Libya.  

 

 

Huh?  the moderates have beein in power since 2011.

 

http://www.theguardi...-moderate-islam

 

http://www.theguardi...der-calls-unity

 

http://usatoday30.us...ions/56284168/1

 

but for how long?

 

http://edition.cnn.c...rld/isis-libya/


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#47 Mr King

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 0304 AM

Yes Shariah law as a basis for ones national laws is very progressive. I see a bright future ahead for Libya, especially the women. 


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#48 Simon Tan

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 0634 AM

Another victory of the Obama administration for women.


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#49 BansheeOne

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 0326 AM

Egypt Conducts Airstrikes on Islamic State Targets in Libya

 

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK FEB. 16, 2015
 
CAIRO — The Egyptian military said on Monday that it carried out airstrikes in Libya in retaliation for the beheading of more than a dozen Egyptian Christians by a branch of the Islamic State extremist group there.
 
In a statement Monday morning, the Egyptian military said that it had conducted airstrikes against training camps and arms depots of the Islamic State group in Libya, but it did not provide details about the targets.
 
The airstrikes are a dramatic escalation of Egypt's role in the continuing battle between armed factions in Libya for control of the country. With the backing of the United Arab Emirates, Egypt has worked covertly to support a Libyan general who is fighting to take back the capital and much of the coast from a rival coalition of militias, some of them made up of Islamist extremists.
 
In a televised address late Sunday night, President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt vowed that his country would choose the “necessary means and timing to avenge the criminal killings.”
 
At about 8:45 a.m. Monday, Egyptian state television announced the attacks with a short video montage showing jets taking off but also images of soldiers, tanks and warships, all set against a soaring musical score. It was narrated by a deep male voice, familiar to those who heard military announcements when the generals seized power from President Hosni Mubarak four years ago.
 
“Honor, nation,” the narrator intones. “This is the slogan of men who ask for death as a sacrifice for the nation. They are men who do not know the meaning of impossible. They penetrate rocks and mountains, and they challenge difficulties. They race each other for martyrdom, on land, sea and air. Their life is a heroic epic, and their martyrdom a sacrifice for dignity, and a pride for Egypt.”
 
Egypt’s air assault came less than 12 hours after the main Islamic State group released a video online that appeared to show fighters from the group’s self-proclaimed Tripolitania Province beheading more than a dozen Egyptian Christians.
 
The Christians were among the thousands of Egyptians who routinely travel across the border to Libya to find work in its oil-rich economy, forging a deep connection between the two neighboring states. About 20 Egyptian Christians had disappeared around the midcoastal city of Surt weeks ago, and last month the Tripolitania Province released a picture showing that it had captured them.
 
The video of their beheadings Sunday night aroused special horror in Egypt and beyond because it was filmed with the theatrical brutality that has become a trademark of the Islamic State.
 
Released under the logo of the Islamic State’s media arm and with the title “A Message Signed With Blood to the Nation of the Cross,” the video appeared to show a row of masked fighters dressed in black and with ceremonial knives at their chests parading more than a dozen captives in orange jumpsuits along a Mediterranean beach in western Libya.
 
Speaking in English, the lead executioner proclaimed in the video that the fighters were part of the larger Islamic State group fighting in Syria, warned that they would allow no safety to “crusaders,” invoked the American military’s burial at sea of Osama bin Laden, and alluded to apocalyptic prophecies about a coming battle for Rome. The fighters then forced their captives to the ground, sawed through their necks, and let the blood darken the waves.
 
The video appeared to show a great degree of communication and collaboration between the Islamic State and its Libyan satellite group than Western officials had previously known.
 
Egypt’s open engagement with airstrikes Monday threatens to draw it further into the Libyan conflict. Islamist fighters in Libya may now seek to stage attacks across the long, lightly patrolled desert border with Egypt, or to increase their support for allied Egyptian militants already attempting to foment an insurgency here.
 
The Egyptian military gave no indication on Monday of whether the airstrikes were a one-time punishment for the killing of its citizens or the beginning of a more prolonged military effort.
 
The leaders of Libya’s internationally recognized government are almost certain to welcome the Egyptian retaliation. That government has relocated to the Libyan cities of Tobruk and Bayda, not far from the Egyptian border, and allied itself with the general fighting against the Islamist factions.
 
At least three different groups of militants inside Libya have proclaimed themselves so-called provinces of the Islamic State, but mainly through online messages and videos. Their leaders and locations are unknown.
 
Supporters of anti-Islamist factions inside Libya have increasingly used the Arabic acronym for the Islamic State to refer to all of their opponents, whether extremists, more moderate groups, or less-ideological local and tribal militias who are merely allied with the Islamists.
 
The blurring of the terms for the purpose of propaganda against the Islamist-allied forces now increases the uncertainty about which positions Egypt might have sought to attack.

 

http://www.nytimes.c...rikes.html?_r=0


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#50 Simon Tan

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 0456 AM

Only Christians. Workplace violence.


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#51 Paul G.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 1029 AM

Yes Shariah law as a basis for ones national laws is very progressive. I see a bright future ahead for Libya, especially the women. 

 

Yes sort of like law in some Western countries in the 1950s (like Ireland).

 

Note that Jalil states that:

 

 

He said Islamic sharia law should be the main source of legislation but added: "We will not accept any extremist ideology, on the right or the left. We are a Muslim people, for a moderate Islam, and will stay on this road."

 

Jalil also emphasised that women had played an important part in the revolution and would continue to do so.

 

While not up to current western standards, its rather progressive for Arab and/or Muslim countries.

 

BTW those nations that laws recongnize some form of Sharia law:

 

940px-Use_of_Sharia_by_country.svg.png


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 1558 PM

There are countries in South America that recognize Sharia law?  Just curious, where would their Muslim population have come from?


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#53 R011

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 1915 PM

There are countries in South America that recognize Sharia law?  Just curious, where would their Muslim population have come from?

 

Guyana.  Their ancestors were from what is now India and Pakistan.  Quite a few people from there were imported into what was then British Guiana. 


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#54 Mr King

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 2031 PM

 

Yes Shariah law as a basis for ones national laws is very progressive. I see a bright future ahead for Libya, especially the women. 

 

Yes sort of like law in some Western countries in the 1950s (like Ireland).

 

Note that Jalil states that:

 

 

He said Islamic sharia law should be the main source of legislation but added: "We will not accept any extremist ideology, on the right or the left. We are a Muslim people, for a moderate Islam, and will stay on this road."

 

Jalil also emphasised that women had played an important part in the revolution and would continue to do so.

 

While not up to current western standards, its rather progressive for Arab and/or Muslim countries.

 

BTW those nations that laws recongnize some form of Sharia law:

 

940px-Use_of_Sharia_by_country.svg.png

 

 

Yes  I am quite capable of reading what was repeated in the links you originally provided. As I am also aware of Sharia being present in other countries, that was kind of the point. He does say some nice pretty things to our western ears , while working to a Islamic theocracy, but hey details right? I am sure everything will work out in the end, and it wont be just another shit show. 


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#55 Paul G.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 0927 AM

my only point is that there are a whole spectrum of Muslims, and like it or not Islam aint going anywhere soon.  I think it would behoove us to support the moderate - progressive Muslims in their struggle against the extremists.   Most of those counties are a shit show, and potential "failed states".  That is a huge problem for the stability of the West. 

 

IMO we would be better off without any Religion. Yes I'm an equal opportunity Atheist.


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#56 rmgill

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 1017 AM

No, supporting the moderate Muslims who go with the flow is not the way to win this. We need to support the reformist Muslims who are actually trying to move the ball to the other end of the field.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 1310 PM

 

There are countries in South America that recognize Sharia law?  Just curious, where would their Muslim population have come from?

 

Guyana.  Their ancestors were from what is now India and Pakistan.  Quite a few people from there were imported into what was then British Guiana. 

 

Ah, thanks!


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#58 Mr King

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 0127 AM

That Arab Spring, can't get enough of it. 

 

35 Egyptians rounded up by ISIS as reprisals for Egyptian air raids 

 

Tripoli, 16 February 2015:

There are reports that at least 35 Egyptians have been kidnapped in what appears to be a round-up at various locations in areas controlled by Ansar Al-Sharia and IS.

The Libya Herald has been told that starting this morning, in the wake of the attack on Derna by warplanes from Egypt, Egyptian nationals, many of them it seems farm workers, have been picked up by gunmen. The first reports were that seven men had been seized, but by mid-afternoon, it was being said that at least 35 had been reported missing.

 

http://www.libyahera...eing-kidnapped/


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Posted 18 February 2015 - 0213 AM

No, supporting the moderate Muslims who go with the flow is not the way to win this. We need to support the reformist Muslims who are actually trying to move the ball to the other end of the field.

 

Provided you can find some...

 

S/F....Ken M


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Posted 18 February 2015 - 2050 PM

Party, Welcome to. 

 

 

Italy Fears ISIS Invasion From Libya

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