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#1 JasonJ

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 0817 AM

The security situation for Taiwan is increasing as the PRC maintains that Taiwan is a part of China. Up until recently, PRC military has had nothing to offer its claim. But now some new things have developed.

 

I'm going to include the Senkaku islands here because the control of those islands and its surrounding space, both sea and air, will have major implications to the security of Taiwan from a geographical point of view. Likewise, the control of Taiwan has huge implications to the Japanese islands near it.

 

 

It has become fairly common for PLAAF aircraft to circle around Taiwan. Just today, such a flight occurred that included 4 H-6 bombers, a TU-154, a Y-8, and supposedly 2 fighter aircraft according to the following Japanese Joint Staff report.

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A picture of one of the four H-6 bombers. A picture of the TU-154 and the Y-8 are also in the report.

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http://www.mod.go.jp...20180511_07.pdf

 

A couple of images came up today of Taiwanese fighter aircraft flying near a Chinese H-6 and TU-154. The H-6 appears to have the same number as the one in the above picture, so quite likely the same H-6 was observed by both Taiwanese and Japanese fighters that were scrambled.

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https://www.weibo.co...nd1526040794060

 

Furthermore Chinese media is reporting that SU-35s escorted the H-6 bombers for the first time, through the Bashi channel. Because it is said that they went through the Bashi Channel, these SU-35s are likely not the supposed fighters in the Japanese report since the Bashi Channel is the waterway that runs between Taiwan and the Philippines.

Spoiler

http://www.globaltim...t/1101857.shtml

 

Seems like images of the SU-35s doing the escort with the H-6 bombers taken off of some PRC TV program.

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https://twitter.com/...901144664248320

 

 

Many of the flights through the Miyako strait like the one above involve PLAAF aircraft circling around Taiwan. The number of times PLAAF fly through the Miyako straight have seen a fairly sharp increase in the past few years, 36 times in FY 2017. And obviously, the flights encircle the area that includes the Senkaku islands and other Japanese islands as well.


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#2 Roman Alymov

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 0916 AM

What is the role of Tu-154? Training plane to familiarize as many pilots as possible with the region?

In USSR, Tu-134-based plane was used as bomber crews trainer

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 0949 AM

The Joint Staff report calls it a 情報収集機 which is "information gathering aircraft", "reconnaissance aircraft" or "spy plane".
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Posted 12 May 2018 - 1313 PM

http://www.mod.go.jp/e/d_act/ryouku/

 

SIGINT plane:

 

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http://chinese-milit...ircraft-ii.html

 

"A number of Tu-154Ms have been converted into ELINT aircraft as Tu-154M/D (Type I/II). Their mission is to search, detect, locate and analyze radio signals of its neighboring countries and regions, even through they were initially disguised under the cover of the civilian China United Airline registration. While Type I was believed to carry a BM/KZ800 ELINT system, Type II features a canoe shaped fairing under the fuselage which was speculated to house a synthetic aperture radar (SAR) to provide high-resolution ground mapping images, a capability similar to American E-8 J-STARS. Besides the SAR radar, the aircraft still retains some of the EW and ELINT equipment, as indicated by the semi-spherical fairings and other small antennas under the rear fuselage. At least 4 Tu-154M/Ds (B-4015, B-4024, B-4029 & B-4138) were converted. Type I first entered the service with PLAAF in 1995. Type II passed the flight test in 1996. Subsequently all Type Is were converted to Type IIs.  The aircraft has been conducting several ELINT missions in East China Sea near Japan since 2013. Recent images indicated that additional Tu-154Ms have been converted (B-4016, B-4017, B-4027, B-4050, B-4028)."


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 0029 AM

The Taiwanese/Nationalist Chinese/Whateverese they call themselves at any given moment depending on what they want have not renounced their claims on Senkaku. Until they do so, their usefulness in strengthening Japanese control of the disputed islands is limited at best. At worst, their fishing boats and groups of Nationalist Chinese flag-waving zealots will continue to present challenges to Japan.

Edited by Nobu, 13 May 2018 - 0038 AM.

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#6 JasonJ

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 0637 AM

 

That is a good link to post, thank you for that. Sometimes English copies get posted up fairly quickly, but sometimes there is quite a lag, and in the end some things never get translated into English. The graph shows up to 2015. For 2016 (a long with blah blah blah) here and for 2017, here. Although the record showing the increase of occurrences from 2009 through to 2012 is an important point. I would add that the taps on the side about the US-Japan alliance are instructive, or at least, indicative, as well in many ways.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 0827 AM

The most interesting thing I see in that pic is that the H-6K is armed. Not with a full spread, but it is carrying a pair of cruise missiles.

That's rather contrary to even the Russian practice when Bear bombers approach the US coast, and is a much more threatening posture to adopt.
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Posted 16 May 2018 - 1116 AM

Any ROCAF/Nationalist Chinese/Taiwanese/Whateverese fighter aircraft scrambling in response to Beijing aircraft patrols over Senkaku do nothing to strengthen Japanese control and ownership of the islands, and violate Japanese airspace claims governed by that clear ownership and control.

 

A ROCAF and a PLAAF aircraft flying together over Senkaku would both be in clear violation of Japanese airspace.


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#9 JasonJ

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 0651 AM

US bill urges US troop participation in Taiwan military training.

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http://www.taipeitim...6/08/2003694523

 

Chinese article not liking these kinds of developments of the US slowly moving towards greater treatment of Taiwan as an official state. It is interesting that this is going on at the same time as the whole DPRK related thing.

Spoiler

https://mil.sina.cn/...a1776573.d.html


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 2342 PM

Military actions, including those involving aircraft carriers, are always an option if the island of Taiwan continues to "play with fire," an expert warned Tuesday after the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy conducted real combat exercises around the island involving "Chinese Aegis" class destroyers.

A fleet consisting of destroyer Jinan and frigate Huanggang under the PLA Eastern Theater Command has been conducting a high-sea real combat exercise since June 17, the official website of the PLA Navy, navy.81.cn, reported on Monday.

The fleet has sailed through straits and waterways including the Bashi Channel and the Taiwan Straits, according to the report.

The exercise has successfully examined tactics and training procedures by teaming up with other naval warships, aviation forces and coastal defense forces in multiple sea areas, it said.

The PLA Navy and Air Force are increasing the frequency of military exercises around Taiwan, Song Zhongping, a military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Tuesday.

The fleet had entered Taiwan's "air defense identification zone" and stayed for more than a week. This is the PLA Navy's second island encirclement exercise around the island within a month, Taiwan-based media United Daily News reported last week.

"It is normal and legitimate for the Chinese mainland to send strong signals like this to the administration of the island," said Song.

PLA must be able to deal with not only Taiwan's military, but also potential intervention from the military alliance of the US and Japan, Song stressed.

This is also the first time a Type 052C destroyer, namely Jinan, has conducted a training mission like this. Type 052C is called the "Chinese Aegis" because of its phased array radar and air defense missiles, which pose huge threats to Taiwan, noted United Daily News.

However, Type 052C is no more than an air defense missile destroyer. Taiwan should expect more military equipment including China's 10,000-ton class missile destroyer Type 055 and aircraft carriers to take part in similar exercises in the future, said Song.

Solving the Taiwan question with force is always a choice on the table, and Taiwan should not play with fire, warned Song.

http://www.globaltim...t/1108480.shtml
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#11 JasonJ

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 0006 AM

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Tokyo, June 27 (CNA) Taiwan's Foreign Minister Joseph Wu (吳釗燮) has called for Japan to engage in security dialogue with Taiwan, as both countries have come under military pressure and threat from China.

In an interview with Japan's Sankei Shimbun published Wednesday, Wu called for Taiwan-Japan security dialogue, saying that ensuring security is a shared responsibility between Taiwan and Japan.

The newspaper described Wu's call as a rare move, as Taiwan has no diplomatic relations with Japan.

Wu said Taiwan looks forward to exchanges of views with Japan on ensuring security in light of increased activity by China's armed forces in the Western Pacific in recent years and the threat this poses to both countries.

Citing the close U.S.-Taiwan security cooperation as an example, Wu said the lack of diplomatic ties between Taiwan and Japan should not be a hindrance to security dialogue.

Wu also emphasized that visits to Taiwan by high-ranking officials from the U.S. administration have increased in frequency, while the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump approved in June 2017 the sale of US$1.42 billion-worth of arms sales to Taiwan.

The Sankei Shimbun report said that after the United States cut official diplomatic ties with Taiwan in 1979, then-U.S. President Jimmy Carter signed the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) into law later that year, laying the legal foundation for security talks between the two countries.

In addition, there have been U.S. military attaches assigned to the American Institute in Taiwan's (AIT) Taipei office since 2005, according to the newspaper.

In contrast, after Japan ended official diplomatic relations with Taiwan in 1972, there has been a lack of legal foundation for exchanges between the two countries, the newspaper noted, adding that with the Taiwan-Japan unofficial relations, there has been only one retired Japanese defense official assigned to the Taipei office of the Japan-Taiwan Exchange Association, Japan's de facto embassy in Taiwan, it said.

http://m.focustaiwan...1806270015.aspx
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#12 JasonJ

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 1022 AM

In the 1st quarter of FY 2018 (April-June), Japan scrambled 271 times, 173 of which being in response to Chinese aircraft. Of the 173, 15 times were abnormal flight paths.

 

Light blue English is mine.

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Red is Chinese, Orange is Russian.

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http://www.mod.go.jp...20180718_01.pdf


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#13 Josh

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 1101 AM

I'm actually a little surprised at the amount of breadth of Russian activity.
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 1322 PM

old habits die hard...


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 1133 AM

South Korean vessels and aircraft visiting illegally occupied Takeshima on a constant basis call for a proportional Japanese security response as well. Arrows for such Korean incursions into Japanese waters and airspace alone would blacken the page around Takeshima entirely.


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Posted 05 January 2019 - 2123 PM

For the new year, on January 2nd, Xi stated in an address to Taiwan that unification is inevitable even if use of force is necessary.

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http://www.xinhuanet...c_137714898.htm

 

Tsai countered by rejecting the address and the one country two system idea.

Spoiler

https://english.pres...ov.tw/News/5621

 

Tsai calls for international help from China's threat.

Spoiler

https://www.taiwanne...en/news/3610793

 

A handful of US politicians criticized Xi's address towards Taiwan.

Spoiler

http://www.taipeitim...1/06/2003707431

 

At an international press conference, Tsai called for strengthening of domestic defense capacity and defense partners with not only the US that sells it weapons but other countries such as Japan.

Spoiler

https://newtalk.tw/n...19-01-06/190417

 

Sankei article stating that hopes for security cooperation between Taiwan and Japan rises which is indicated from that January 5th press conference which was the first international press conference with Tsai since May 2016 when she was inaugurated.

Spoiler

https://www.sankei.c...1050016-n1.html


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#17 JasonJ

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 2153 PM

A couple of points made in other threads that should be in this thread.

 

In April 2018, the PLAN made a carrier group with carrier Liaoning and for the first time sailed beyond the 1st island chain, circling around Taiwan and passing through the Okinawa island chain.

http://www.tank-net....39564&p=1365070

 

A post about Senkaku territorial water trespassing by Chinese Coast Guard ships which have increased in frequency drastically since 2012.

http://www.tank-net....38875&p=1389479

 

While the frequency of Chinese Coast Guard sailing has decreased towards the end of 2018, they made their first territorial trespassing for the new year on January 5th with a group of 4 Chinese Coast Guard ships.

Spoiler

https://www.yomiuri....OYT1T50057.html


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#18 Simon Tan

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 2033 PM

Japanese foreign diplomacy kabuki is wonderful and entirely for domestic consumption.


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#19 JasonJ

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 2050 PM

Although the Taiwan related ones are low tier. Broadway level is the Kabuki-Talchum duo presented by JPN-ROK.
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#20 Roman Alymov

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 1707 PM

Japanese foreign diplomacy kabuki is wonderful and entirely for domestic consumption.

Now it is spilling into Russian domestic discussion


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