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#2061 DougRichards

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 0356 AM

But I hope the butterflies bloom from the caterpillars


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 0436 AM

48 tons on those wheeny tracks ? The do remind me of mine excavators tracks too, and those things are light and slow



My suggestion a few posts back was to drive up the beach only. Others suggested that it is for crossing sandbanks. Which kind of makes sense for shallow waters. Another vehicle type would be hovercraft for this, but those are really loud.
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 0511 AM

 

48 tons on those wheeny tracks ? The do remind me of mine excavators tracks too, and those things are light and slow



My suggestion a few posts back was to drive up the beach only. Others suggested that it is for crossing sandbanks. Which kind of makes sense for shallow waters. Another vehicle type would be hovercraft for this, but those are really loud.

 

 

true enough, but sandy beaches (or sandbanks) are really soft surfaces, so you would want to minimise ground pressure, not maximise it...


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 0526 AM

 

48 tons on those wheeny tracks ? The do remind me of mine excavators tracks too, and those things are light and slow



My suggestion a few posts back was to drive up the beach only. Others suggested that it is for crossing sandbanks. Which kind of makes sense for shallow waters. Another vehicle type would be hovercraft for this, but those are really loud.

 

It isn't 48 T. Do the maths - it will sink if that heavy. It was just one guess at the (very - due to inevitable asymmetry of loading etc.) upper bound before using straps like as shown becomes unsafe.We know it does not weight a lot not because of what is lifting it, but because of what it is.

 


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 0539 AM

 

 

48 tons on those wheeny tracks ? The do remind me of mine excavators tracks too, and those things are light and slow



My suggestion a few posts back was to drive up the beach only. Others suggested that it is for crossing sandbanks. Which kind of makes sense for shallow waters. Another vehicle type would be hovercraft for this, but those are really loud.

 

It isn't 48 T. Do the maths - it will sink if that heavy. It was just one guess at the (very - due to inevitable asymmetry of loading etc.) upper bound before using straps like as shown becomes unsafe.We know it does not weight a lot not because of what is lifting it, but because of what it is.

 

 

 

I wrote of a max of 48 tons, that is 12 tons per each end of the strap: there are two straps: each going around the hull


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 0558 AM

 

 

 

48 tons on those wheeny tracks ? The do remind me of mine excavators tracks too, and those things are light and slow



My suggestion a few posts back was to drive up the beach only. Others suggested that it is for crossing sandbanks. Which kind of makes sense for shallow waters. Another vehicle type would be hovercraft for this, but those are really loud.

 

It isn't 48 T. Do the maths - it will sink if that heavy. It was just one guess at the (very - due to inevitable asymmetry of loading etc.) upper bound before using straps like as shown becomes unsafe.We know it does not weight a lot not because of what is lifting it, but because of what it is.

 

 

 

I wrote of a max of 48 tons, that is 12 tons per each end of the strap: there are two straps: each going around the hull

 

Right, giving the absolute upper bound to do it safely, if you have the weight evenly distributed. In practice that is very hard to do.

What I am saying is that there is not enough hull volume for this to be near that weight and still be amphibious. It looks like it should displace about 18t or so to sit properly in the water.

 


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 0827 AM

But I hope the butterflies bloom from the caterpillars

How...Oriental. :P


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 0724 AM

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I think we're here, sir. Just a bit south of where it says Australia.

 

That says "Austria", where the bloody hell did you learn to read? You've driven us right into the middle of the third Reich!


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Posted 11 November 2018 - 1900 PM

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 1905 PM

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Challenger cosplaying as a Leopard 2. Or as  Abrams.  ^_^

 

Do you have more info? projected protection? When? Where? Who?


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Posted 11 November 2018 - 2002 PM

Vickers Mk.4 MBT for export from the late 1970s. According to Foss and McKenzie, it was designed with Chobham armor, the 105 mm L7, Rolls-Royce CV12 TCA 1000-hp engine or the GM 12v71T with 915 hp. A "universal" turret with the 120 mm L11 (or Rheinmetall 120 mm or the L7) was exhibited in 1982, bringing the weight to 47 tons, and the vehicle was then dubbed Valiant (perhaps not the most inspiring of names considering the first Valiant tank...). The hull structure was aluminum while the turret structure was steel, both with Chobham overtop. Secondary torsion bars were used on road wheels 1, 2, and 6 in the original version, and on all wheel stations when the heavier universal turret was introduced. Ammo stowage included fifty-two 120 mm rifle, forty-four 120 mm smoothbore, or fifty-six 105 mm rounds. It FCS included a laser rangefinder, thermal sight, solid-state gun control system with 2-axis stab, and the TC could align the turret with any of his six periscopes by pushing buttons under the appropriate periscope.
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 0255 AM

Vickers Mk.4 MBT for export from the late 1970s. According to Foss and McKenzie, it was designed with Chobham armor, the 105 mm L7, Rolls-Royce CV12 TCA 1000-hp engine or the GM 12v71T with 915 hp. A "universal" turret with the 120 mm L11 (or Rheinmetall 120 mm or the L7) was exhibited in 1982, bringing the weight to 47 tons, and the vehicle was then dubbed Valiant (perhaps not the most inspiring of names considering the first Valiant tank...). The hull structure was aluminum while the turret structure was steel, both with Chobham overtop. Secondary torsion bars were used on road wheels 1, 2, and 6 in the original version, and on all wheel stations when the heavier universal turret was introduced. Ammo stowage included fifty-two 120 mm rifle, forty-four 120 mm smoothbore, or fifty-six 105 mm rounds. It FCS included a laser rangefinder, thermal sight, solid-state gun control system with 2-axis stab, and the TC could align the turret with any of his six periscopes by pushing buttons under the appropriate periscope.

 

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Posted Yesterday, 07:37 AM

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Posted Yesterday, 07:50 AM

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W O W.

 

I can hear from here WoT designers making a new German premium tank...


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Posted Yesterday, 11:35 AM

It was anounced as a premium in 2011, but never saw the light of the computer screen.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:54 PM

WT OTOH...


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Posted Yesterday, 05:35 PM

It was anounced as a premium in 2011, but never saw the light of the computer screen.

 

of course not. Although plugging the parts together shouldn't be too hard. Models are there, damage values etc. :glare:

 

Although this one-off field kit-bash from 22nd PzDiv is quite famous.

 

 

 

WT OTOH...

 

 

Wasn't there also a one-off KV-2 regunned with a PaK40 7,5 cm AT cannon. That would be really mean.

 

 

For War Thunder a T-34 with the FlaKvierling turret from the wirbelwind would be really neat too. But no, they have to overrate soviet HE in wt. grumble grumble

 

Or how about making the british tanks actually playable. It is really silly that the churchill loses so much of its snails pace when climbing slopes.  Okay, I'll stop.

 

 

 

 

 

another oyekt:

 

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needs more slopes I think. ^_^


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