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#41 BansheeOne

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 0751 AM

Well, I just plotted a trip from Flensburg on the Danish border to Mittenwald on the Austrian, and Google Maps quoted me about ten hours twenty minutes for 1,036-1,055 kilometers, including current roadwork sites. That's probably realistic if you don't hit a real congestion due to accidents etc.; I typically find I'm about ten percent faster than navigation systems tell me, but you might want to take some breaks on that long a trip.

 

East to West is seven hours for 757 kilometers from Görlitz on the Polish border to Aachen on the Belgian; that's with two actual congestions indicated on A 4. Google Maps says you can avoid those by going further north via A 2, but that extends the distance to 820 kilometers and driving time to 7:39 hours.

 

Probably the longest you can go is from Sassnitz on Rügen Island off the Baltic coast to Weil on the Rhine in the French-Swiss-German border triangle. That's ten hours and 23-42 minutes for 1,126-1,182 kilometers, with a detour near Rostock where they're still restoring A 20 after a sinkhole swallowed part of it a little over a year ago.


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 0803 AM

Well, I just plotted a trip from Flensburg on the Danish border to Mittenwald on the Austrian, and Google Maps quoted me about ten hours twenty minutes for 1,036-1,055 kilometers, including current roadwork sites. That's probably realistic if you don't hit a real congestion due to accidents etc.; I typically find I'm about ten percent faster than navigation systems tell me, but you might want to take some breaks on that long a trip.

 

East to West is seven hours for 757 kilometers from Görlitz on the Polish border to Aachen on the Belgian; that's with two actual congestions indicated on A 4. Google Maps says you can avoid those by going further north via A 2, but that extends the distance to 820 kilometers and driving time to 7:39 hours.

 

Probably the longest you can go is from Sassnitz on Rügen Island off the Baltic coast to Weil on the Rhine in the French-Swiss-German border triangle. That's ten hours and 23-42 minutes for 1,126-1,182 kilometers, with a detour near Rostock where they're still restoring A 20 after a sinkhole swallowed part of it a little over a year ago.

Someone  told me a difference between the U.S. and Europe is that the U.S. believes 300 years is a very long time and Europe believes 300 miles is a very long distance.


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 0941 AM

Well, I just plotted a trip from Flensburg on the Danish border to Mittenwald on the Austrian, and Google Maps quoted me about ten hours twenty minutes for 1,036-1,055 kilometers, including current roadwork sites. That's probably realistic if you don't hit a real congestion due to accidents etc.; I typically find I'm about ten percent faster than navigation systems tell me, but you might want to take some breaks on that long a trip...

You must be slowing down in your old age :)


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 1004 AM

 

Well, I just plotted a trip from Flensburg on the Danish border to Mittenwald on the Austrian, and Google Maps quoted me about ten hours twenty minutes for 1,036-1,055 kilometers, including current roadwork sites. That's probably realistic if you don't hit a real congestion due to accidents etc.; I typically find I'm about ten percent faster than navigation systems tell me, but you might want to take some breaks on that long a trip...

You must be slowing down in your old age :)

 

 

Nah, he was slow years ago. Only 170kph on the Autobahn.


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 1006 AM

SNAIL! My taxi in Tehran went 180!


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 1011 AM

Then, in a Malaysian motorway: "Happy New Year, sir!"


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 1140 AM

Nah, he was slow years ago. Only 170kph on the Autobahn.

 

Oy, I delivered the whole crew to Munster at 195 in the 2011 I&I! And without unnecessary detours due to relying on GPS, unlike others I cud name! It's not my fault that my own Fiat didn't quite achieve the same ... but we still beat the ETA by about 45 minutes coming back from Prague the next year, despite convoying to Dresden, heavy wind and rain north of that, and my usual access road into Berlin being blocked off. ;)


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 1210 PM

Oh, now I remember some choice words about one Sebastian "frigging" Vettel... :D


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 1412 PM

This is just ugly. 

 


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 1904 PM

This is a GRU provocation.
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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0107 AM

This is a GRU provocation.

GRU street band playing "On the Hills of Manchuria" ( https://en.wikipedia...ls_of_Manchuria )


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0310 AM

It's all very French. :D


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0344 AM

The audience looks unimpressed though. Maybe they would have preferred this old crowdpleaser.

 

 

 

The French are like the Ukrainians, a Government is just a convenient pause between riots. :)


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0405 AM

The audience looks unimpressed though. Maybe they would have preferred this old crowdpleaser.

 

Old good classic is enough for the situation

 

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0406 AM

I knew he wouldn't be able to resist taking the bait. :)


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0409 AM

https://www.bbc.com/...europe-46499996

 

The "yellow vest" protests have been "a catastrophe" for the French economy, the finance minister says.

France has seen four consecutive weekends of demonstrations against fuel tax rises, high living costs and other issues.

About 125,000 protesters took to the streets on Saturday, with more than 1,200 taken into custody.

President Emmanuel Macron is expected to announce anti-crisis measures in an address to the nation on Monday.

Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire called the situation "a crisis" for both society and democracy.

"It's a catastrophe for business, it's a catastrophe for our economy," he said during a visit to shops in Paris that had been damaged during the protests.

The capital was particularly badly hit, with windows smashed, cars burned, and shops looted, as 10,000 people took part in demonstrations.

"There was much more damage yesterday than a week ago" because Saturday's protests were more dispersed, deputy mayor Emmanuel Gregoire told local radio.

However, he added that there had been fewer injuries compared with last week.

Meanwhile Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian responded angrily to US President Donald Trump, who on Saturday in tweets appeared to suggest the Paris Climate Agreement was the reason for the unrest.

"I say this to Donald Trump and the French president says it too: leave our nation be," Mr Le Drian said.

President Emmanuel Macron - who many protesters want to stand down - will address the nation at 20:00 local time (19:00 GMT) on Monday.

He is expected to meet trade union and business leaders in the morning, according to union sources.

Mr Macron has kept a low profile so far during the protests.

How bad is the economic damage?

It is too early to calculate the full economic cost - but it's clear the damage is severe.

 

Le Parisien newspaper reported that in the capital about 50 vehicles had been burnt and dozens of businesses vandalised, with some of them looted. The authorities in the city say that riots have caused millions of pounds of damage.

On Friday, the French retail federation told Reuters news agency that retailers had lost about €1bn ($1.1bn; £900m) since the protests first began on 17 November.

Mr Le Maire said last week, before the most recent protests, that the restaurant trade had declined by between 20% and 50%.

And Francois Asselin, head of the confederation of small and medium-sized businesses, told the Journal du Dimanche newspaper (in French) that overall the protests could cost his members €10bn.

There are concerns that the protests could lead to a drop in tourism. Paris was visited by a record number of tourists in 2017 - more than 40 million, the Paris Tourism Office said last month.

 

 

Im not sure it will damage tourism. Im sure a lot of people already have preconceived ideas about what Paris is like. :)


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0429 AM

I knew he wouldn't be able to resist taking the bait. :)

:)  Note i am not proposing more radical variants (like this one we, Soviet schoolchildren, were studying in school - with moderated translation)


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0554 AM

Well, I just plotted a trip from Flensburg on the Danish border to Mittenwald on the Austrian, and Google Maps quoted me about ten hours twenty minutes for 1,036-1,055 kilometers, including current roadwork sites. That's probably realistic if you don't hit a real congestion due to accidents etc.; I typically find I'm about ten percent faster than navigation systems tell me, but you might want to take some breaks on that long a trip.

 

East to West is seven hours for 757 kilometers from Görlitz on the Polish border to Aachen on the Belgian; that's with two actual congestions indicated on A 4. Google Maps says you can avoid those by going further north via A 2, but that extends the distance to 820 kilometers and driving time to 7:39 hours.

 

Probably the longest you can go is from Sassnitz on Rügen Island off the Baltic coast to Weil on the Rhine in the French-Swiss-German border triangle. That's ten hours and 23-42 minutes for 1,126-1,182 kilometers, with a detour near Rostock where they're still restoring A 20 after a sinkhole swallowed part of it a little over a year ago.

FWIW, when I was in my early 20's and invulnerable, I spent the morning at Mt. Rushmore then kept on driving until I reached Terra Haute, Indiana. 


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0752 AM

Mr Le Maire said last week, before the most recent protests, that the restaurant trade had declined by between 20% and 50%.

 

Riots in France, Gourmet Restaurants hardest hit.


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Posted 10 December 2018 - 0757 AM

How many of the Gillets Jeaunes frequent Michelin outlets? Let them eat foie gras…..


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