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#1 Dawes

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 1920 PM

Looks like Turkey has been approved for a Patriot sale, should they choose to move forward with it. Weren't the Russian and Chinese options under consideration, though?

 

http://www.dsca.mil/...urkey_18-17.pdf


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#2 Markus Becker

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Posted 21 December 2018 - 0552 AM

If we are lucky they just pretended to buy Chinese to get a discount on the Patriots.
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Posted 21 December 2018 - 1344 PM

I thought the Russian deal for S400 was already signed. It isn't clear if that still goes through or not.


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Posted 21 December 2018 - 1453 PM

On paper at least, isn't the S400 a far more capable system?


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Posted 21 December 2018 - 1504 PM

I thought the Russian deal for S400 was already signed. It isn't clear if that still goes through or not.

This is another deal. In tender which included Patrion from ru side only S-300 participated. S-400 deal came much later.


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Posted 21 December 2018 - 1505 PM

On paper at least, isn't the S400 a far more capable system?

It is, and not only at paper, in most areas. But not as optimised for ABM duty as PAC-3. Thing is - Patriot is mostly political move and not search for capability.


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Posted 21 December 2018 - 1726 PM

PAC-3 appears to be a profitable system:

 

Lockheed Martin Corp., Grand Prairie, Texas, was awarded a $3,378,834,083 fixed-price-incentive foreign military sales (Kuwait and Saudi Arabia) contract to produce Phased Array Tracking Radar to Intercept on Target Advanced Capability-3 missiles with associated ground support equipment and initial spares. One bid was solicited with one bid received. Work will be performed in Huntsville, Alabama; Camden, Arkansas; Ocala, Florida; Chelmsford, Massachusetts; Grand Prairie, Texas; and Lukin, Texas, with an estimated completion date of Dec. 31, 2024. Fiscal 2019 other procurement Army funds in the amount of $1,808,140,141 were obligated at the time of the award. U.S. Army Contracting Command, Redstone Arsenal, Alabama, is the contracting activity (W31P4Q-19-C-0011).


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#8 Roman Alymov

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 2309 PM

I wonder how they plan to co-produce S-400

https://www.defensen...=Socialflow DFN

Turkish ‘brain drain’: Why are defense industry officials ditching their jobs in Turkey for work abroad?


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 1457 PM

No one wants to work with or deal with the Sultan and his corruption. It is part of a much larger movement of intellectuals out of a country run Islamists.

 

https://www.nytimes....on-erdogan.html


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 1600 PM

That, and you are just a phone call away from being arrested for being a Gulenist. Mass arrests are a weekly phenomenon.
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