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#1 Dawes

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Posted 12 May 2020 - 1621 PM

Is this a recent upgrade?

 

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Posted 12 May 2020 - 1818 PM

It's the first I've heard of it.  Redesigning the autoloader and putting the ammo in a turret bustle seems like a pretty big deal, as does dropping the IR dazzlers from Shtora and giving the commander panoramic night vision.

They're not saying how much the upgrade weighs or how much power the new engine puts out, but the overtdefense article linked from that one implies the horsepower/ton might be about the same as before.


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#3 Simon Tan

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Posted 12 May 2020 - 2024 PM

Does not have a bustle autoloader.  The bustle has 'stuff' and loadsa .50 cal.


Edited by Simon Tan, 12 May 2020 - 2026 PM.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 0246 AM

It's the first I've heard of it.  Redesigning the autoloader and putting the ammo in a turret bustle seems like a pretty big deal, as does dropping the IR dazzlers from Shtora and giving the commander panoramic night vision.

They're not saying how much the upgrade weighs or how much power the new engine puts out, but the overtdefense article linked from that one implies the horsepower/ton might be about the same as before.


Strange that you haven't heard of it. It's quite a major new development.

It's got a new turret, but keeps the same autoloader (with additional armour). The ammo in the bustle is just a reserve supply. It is not accessible from inside the tank, and it's just stored in a thinly armoured bin.
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#5 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 0317 AM

Yeah I read up on it when I was doing an Armored Brigade mod (really must finish that). Its the same gun as they have on Armata,the  2A82, which theoretically give it the ability to penetrate an Abrams. (But clearly not a Challenger 2, whose armoured is stuffed with the enchanted feathers of an aylesbury duck, or so I hear).

 

From little I was able to find, I think the front of the turret is original, and they put in a bigger bustle to give room for the autoloader to load longer rod penetrators. Bit like a Sherman Firefly if thats true.


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 0441 AM

it doesn't have 2A82 gun, 2A46M5 or sometimes called 2A46M6 


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#7 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 0448 AM

Well that invalidates 90 percent of everything ive read about it then. :D


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 0858 AM

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#9 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 0902 AM

Is this an entirely new turret, or a re engineered T90A turret?


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 0952 AM

It's entirely new.
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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1006 AM

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#12 Dawes

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1026 AM

Looks like the T-90 series is turning into a very expensive tank.


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1043 AM

T-90MS walkaround. I do like the desert splinter camo scheme:

 


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#14 Manic Moran

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1052 AM

Binocular night vision for the driver?


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1102 AM

Looks like there are even a few model kits on the market:

 

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1104 AM

Binocular night vision for the driver?

thermal camera + low level tv IIRC, there was some attempts to make serial driver vision block with optic+tv+thermal, or external camera's like on 90MS, but Russian MOD "lol thats to expensive" 

 

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TVN-10 was one of this attempts 


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1104 AM

The cameras are absent on the units delivered to the Taman division. Maybe they were nice to have but not considered essential?


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1115 AM

The cameras are absent on the units delivered to the Taman division. Maybe they were nice to have but not considered essential?

Russian Army never gets anything "expensive" 90M itself is a very shitty designed "modernization", as any other RA MoD mod pack for any tank.


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1126 AM

Yeah I read up on it when I was doing an Armored Brigade mod (really must finish that). Its the same gun as they have on Armata,the  2A82, which theoretically give it the ability to penetrate an Abrams. (But clearly not a Challenger 2, whose armoured is stuffed with the enchanted feathers of an aylesbury duck, or so I hear).
 
From little I was able to find, I think the front of the turret is original, and they put in a bigger bustle to give room for the autoloader to load longer rod penetrators. Bit like a Sherman Firefly if thats true.


Other than Wiedzmin's comment on the gun, the autoloader is still the same carousel loader. The turret bustle contains additional ammo that can only be accessed manually from outside the tank.
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#20 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 1148 AM

Yes im fully able to accept that, except a lot of what I learned was coming off Russian Defence.net IIRC. I guess I should know better.


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