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#5561 Nikolas93TS

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 1647 PM

Interior footage likes that really makes it obvious even to someone like me who has never been inside an armoured vehicle just how little room for error there is around the breech and how easy accidents can/could happen during firing/loading/recoil.  How any of the turret crew have any hearing left at all after a few rounds also completely baffles me!

 

How many ready rounds are there available for the loader in the 2S1 in those clips on the turret walls?  According to most sites I've read, 40 rounds are typically the most which are carried internally.  Are all of those within easy reach of the loader?

 

Yes, 40 shells, of which 16 can be considered ready round IIRC. I was told the rate of fire is slower when onboard ammunition supply is used.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 0243 AM

These are all Kharkiv projects yes?
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#5563 Jim Warford

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 1646 PM

Here are two vidgrabs that provide an interesting look at the Object 287...

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 1651 PM

 

Interior footage likes that really makes it obvious even to someone like me who has never been inside an armoured vehicle just how little room for error there is around the breech and how easy accidents can/could happen during firing/loading/recoil.  How any of the turret crew have any hearing left at all after a few rounds also completely baffles me!

 

How many ready rounds are there available for the loader in the 2S1 in those clips on the turret walls?  According to most sites I've read, 40 rounds are typically the most which are carried internally.  Are all of those within easy reach of the loader?

 

Yes, 40 shells, of which 16 can be considered ready round IIRC. I was told the rate of fire is slower when onboard ammunition supply is used.

 

Thank you.

 

With it being 2-piece ammunition, it seems natural that there isn't enough space to stow all 40 rounds on the turret walls.  Sixteen rounds seems quite a low number that are quick and easy to get at....


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 1401 PM

Here are two vidgrabs that provide an interesting look at the Object 287...

Object%20287_1964_1.jpg

You grabbed? If so, t(h)anks. If not, still t(h)anks for posting :)


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 0017 AM

Strange idea; at the least it still surely needs a decent cannon for fighting infantry.


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 1207 PM

Strange idea; at the least it still surely needs a decent cannon for fighting infantry.

Not entirely sure if the IT-1 T-62-based tank destroyer had a coax MG either - something I've never considered before now.  Assuming such vehicles would have a set number of infantry (or infantry carriers such as BMP/BTR) for protection against enemy infantry-operated RPG/ATG/ATGM type weapons?

 

Quite curious as to how they'd be used operationally, especially since the IT-1 appears to have been produced in enough numbers (around 80 supposedly) which would be enough to fully equip two tank regiments with said AFV's?  Unless it was mixed with conventionally-armed tanks.


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 2258 PM

Yes, it had a coax...

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 2357 PM

M1970...

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M1971 used at least once by the British...

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A couple more M1970 pics...

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