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#1381 JasonJ

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 0954 AM

Many right wing Americans appear to be so thoroughly indoctrinated if not brainwashed that they still obsess about HRC after she is definitely done as a politician - and ignore the currently collapsing 'bullshit mountain' of the Trump administration.

 

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 1050 AM

Well, to me no public office and no aspiration to get into public office = activist or party member at most, not politician.



#1383 Ken Estes

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Posted Today, 04:48 AM

Every day, there is a new low:

 

http://www.bbc.com/n...europe-40049855



#1384 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted Today, 05:21 AM

One piece left unsaid in that BBC article. For all the virtues Obama laid on the Germans (and surely worthy of all of them they are), whom did he find  more value in more as allies? The Germans, whom for very understandable reasons are distinctly unable to commit military force to the degree the Americans might like. Or the British, whom Obama pretty much all but ignored and treated as lepers in a house full of deities? The death toll in Afghanistan speaks its own story.

 

There is a lot wrong in the Trump Presidency, its quite true. Im just not really feeling the veneration that's implied in the article in the previous incumbent, whom greased the rails for many of the problems Europe is now suffering. All Trump has done is point to what Europe is doing wrong, and frankly, the man has a point. They might despair of Trump, and adore Obama, but what did the former  President do for them? Precious damn little.

 

The sooner Europe stops behaving as if its some kind of popularity contest, or some bastard celebrity edition of Eurovision, the better it will be for everyone. In that regard, I guess Trump and the European leaders do have something in common.They assume popularity is the same as policy.



#1385 Roman Alymov

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Posted Today, 05:29 AM

The sooner Europe stops behaving as if its some kind of popularity contest, or some bastard celebrity edition of Eurovision, the better it will be for everyone. In that regard, I guess Trump and the European leaders do have something in common.They assume popularity is the same as policy.

IMHO they can’t – as large part of population is dissatisfied with situation (see rise of different alternative parties), mainstream politicians have to make popular promises if they want to be elected, or they will be thrown out of office on next elections.



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Posted Today, 05:41 AM

 

The sooner Europe stops behaving as if its some kind of popularity contest, or some bastard celebrity edition of Eurovision, the better it will be for everyone. In that regard, I guess Trump and the European leaders do have something in common.They assume popularity is the same as policy.

IMHO they can’t – as large part of population is dissatisfied with situation (see rise of different alternative parties), mainstream politicians have to make popular promises if they want to be elected, or they will be thrown out of office on next elections.

 

 

Roman, name a politician that isnt like that these days. Even your own President is mistaking his own personal and populist narrative for reality.

 

Besides, what situation are they dissatisfied with? Their own personal experiences, or the dissociated ones they are spoon fed by a self serving media without adequate error checking? There is a lot wrong in Europe, quite true, and yet they still keep voting for personalities rather than issues. Presumably because it is so damn slippery to understand real issues in the simplistic media world in which we now live.

 

There is a lot wrong with Trump. But blaming him for all Europes problems, let alone the problems in the world which date back over the past 2 or 3 Presidents is not going to get us anywhere. We either trust him to do the right thing, or Europe goes and forms its own security policy. They wont, so they may as well stop whining about him and start working with him, for all his flaws.

 

As for Juncker, he has shown all the geopolitical savvy of Mr McGoo in a shop full of crockery. Trump could do better asking a half dozen people on Tanknet for policy rather than listening to that bloody fool.






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