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#1 Murph

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 1916 PM

The first ice of the year, and the whole state closes.


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#2 Mikel2

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 2109 PM

Clear sign of global warming.

No ice would have also been a clear sign of global warming.

Edited by Mikel2, 16 January 2018 - 2109 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 2144 PM

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 2200 PM

When there's a lot of snow and ice on the roads, normally salt is dropped onto pretty much all of the roads. So that would require the stock of salt, trucks that can lay it all down in all parts on a moments notice so that the roads will be ready soon. But in Texas, the roads are very extensive, and major icy roads during daylight hours is probably rather rare. So to most texas law makers, it's probably not worth the additional cost to maintain the salt, trucks, and man hours to be ready on short notice throughout the winter. Thus better to play it safe for the few times icy roads to appear and close places for the day. Well just some thoughts, I'm not particular to the details about salt laying trucks.
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#5 FlyingCanOpener

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 2203 PM

More of a case of it rarely needing de-icing than the large amount of roads. Up around Dallas and to the northwest ice and snow are uncommon, but down in southern Texas/south Louisiana? Almost never. I think we'll end up with more snowfall this winter than the previous decade combined.


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#6 Panzermann

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0503 AM

More of a case of it rarely needing de-icing than the large amount of roads. Up around Dallas and to the northwest ice and snow are uncommon, but down in southern Texas/south Louisiana? Almost never. I think we'll end up with more snowfall this winter than the previous decade combined.

 

plus people having only summer tires on their cars which get slippery when it is cold and wet (or freezing) and road traffic turns into a crawl.

 

Many people in germany do not have winter tires either. Great fun when winter comes and actually delivers snow and frost. evn below 10°C can get slippery already.


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#7 Murph

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0637 AM

They do not use salt, it is sand, and you are right, we get icy roads a few times a year down here, but when we do....OMG.

When there's a lot of snow and ice on the roads, normally salt is dropped onto pretty much all of the roads. So that would require the stock of salt, trucks that can lay it all down in all parts on a moments notice so that the roads will be ready soon. But in Texas, the roads are very extensive, and major icy roads during daylight hours is probably rather rare. So to most texas law makers, it's probably not worth the additional cost to maintain the salt, trucks, and man hours to be ready on short notice throughout the winter. Thus better to play it safe for the few times icy roads to appear and close places for the day. Well just some thoughts, I'm not particular to the details about salt laying trucks.


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#8 Soren Ras

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0653 AM

The expense and effort to maintain salt-distribution and snow-removal capability is one of those everpresent discussions.

 

Heck, in my neck of the woods, a few years ago some of the folks at our local community townhall were very eager to save on salt and snow readiness, citing global warming making snow rarer, and two subsequent mild winters where the draw on those resources was quite low.

Fortunately, we managed to retain the capability (else it would have been difficult to re-establish on short notice), and the following winter was quite hard. 

 

So far, this winter is mild around here (Denmark), and sure enough, the coming townhall has the discussion point coming up again. 

 

Sigh, now I need to go to that meeting to make sure the idiots don't  screw us over.

 

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#9 Markus Becker

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0709 AM

They do not use salt, it is sand, and you are right, we get icy roads a few times a year down here, but when we do....OMG.


Are the roads covered in ice or just snow? If it's actual ice the only way to drive is not to. Snow is harmless, one just needs to slow down and be gentle on the brakes.
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#10 Murph

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0724 AM

We get black ice down here, and that is what is causing the issues.  

 

They do not use salt, it is sand, and you are right, we get icy roads a few times a year down here, but when we do....OMG.


Are the roads covered in ice or just snow? If it's actual ice the only way to drive is not to. Snow is harmless, one just needs to slow down and be gentle on the brakes.

 


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#11 Rick

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0738 AM

Could be worse, could be Vanilla Ice :blink:


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#12 Markus Becker

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0757 AM

 

We get black ice down here, and that is what is causing the issues.  

 

 

 

Oh that. Closing everything down is the reasonable thing to do. 


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 0922 AM

As I pointed out to Northerners who laugh at Southerners and wintry conditions, ice hates everyone, no matter where they're from and wants to kill you.
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Some of the rural AL roads seem to have iced up, but the interstates look OK. There's actually some fine snow coming down now.
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Posted 17 January 2018 - 1007 AM

Are the roads covered in ice or just snow? If it's actual ice the only way to drive is not to. Snow is harmless, one just needs to slow down and be gentle on the brakes.

That's over simplifying driving on snow.  Given enough traffic and low enough temperatures, snow can quickly become ice.


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#15 Markus Becker

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 1252 PM

Yes but until then drivers can compensate and it can be removed easily with a truck that has a scraper shield. 


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#16 Soren Ras

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 1445 PM

As I pointed out to Northerners who laugh at Southerners and wintry conditions, ice hates everyone, no matter where they're from and wants to kill you.
 

If someone wants to kill you, that's an enemy.

If everything wants to kill you, that's Nature.

 

 

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#17 rmgill

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 1528 PM

Ice? No problem. 

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#18 Murph

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 2041 PM

LOL I remember those.  

Ice? No problem. 

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#19 rmgill

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 2055 PM

Had the truck out today and tonight. G177s are FAR better than bog standard military NDT's. Found some ice patches and the truck stayed true so long as I wasn't ham fisted. Didn't rig the chains as it's rough on the road and the chains when there's more pavement than Ice (which is what we're at right now). 


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 2107 PM

Seeing a deuce n half without duals is just wrong. 


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