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#761 JasonJ

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 0856 AM

The "Who is Choi" thread was another East Asia related thread that was eaten the Oops! Something Went Wrong! Forum bug..

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So without being able to link it as support, part of the reason why Moon Jae-in won the presidential election was because the South Koreans wanted someone very different from the scandals ridden president Park Geun-hye whose support rating dropped below 5%, was impeached, and removed, thus causing the next presidential election to be held in a hurry about 8 months ahead of the regular time. Park's political party splintered as some members wanted to break away from the scandle stink and the once viewed favorite to be the next president, former UN Ban Ki-Moon lost early in the election campaign probably because he felt to similar to Park. So Moon Jae-in's overall soft approach for North Korea made evident is probably a little more than the overall sentiment of South Koreans.

 

The Oops! bug was slayed. Here is the support thread: http://www.tank-net....02#entry1274657



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 1002 AM

Some new posters.

 

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Little too subtle for them really. They should get Michael Bay to do their posters for them. :P



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 1009 AM

It was the time of the Trumpster in the year of 17
An' just when you think it's all over, it's only begun....

 

http://www.dailymail...ess-strike.html

North Korea warns America it will launch a 'merciless strike' and 'uncontrollable nuclear war' over military exercise in the South
  • Pyongyang warned that's President Trump's 'reckless behavior (is) driving the situation into the uncontrollable phase of a nuclear war'
  • Warning comes day ahead of the ten-day Ulchi Freedom Guardian military, a joint exercise with the US and South Korea
  • Kim Jong Un plans to watch the 'foolish' Yankees before giving launch orders
  • Trump said earlier that Washington could rain 'fire and fury' on the North
  • Combative rhetoric spiked after Pyongyang tested two intercontinental ballistic missiles last month that brought much of the US  in range
  • Pyongyang declared its army can hit the US at anytime, and nowhere on the mainland, or Guam or Hawaii, can 'dodge the merciless strike'

 

North Korea warned Sunday that the United States will be 'pouring gasoline on fire' by conducting annual military exercises with the South next week, adding that there was nowhere in America that can dodge its 'merciless strike.'

Dictator Kim Jong Un said he plans to 'watch a little more the foolish and stupid conduct of the Yankees,' before giving the order to launch orders, North Korean state controlled media revealed last week.

Today's warning came a day ahead of the ten-day Ulchi Freedom Guardian military, a joint exercise with the US and South Korea.



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 1012 AM

 

Some new posters.

 

 

Little too subtle for them really. They should get Michael Bay to do their posters for them. :P

 

 

They are too rational to get him.



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 1019 AM

The Ulchi Freedom Guardian exercise coming up will have 7,500 less US troops than last year's 25,000; http://www.usfk.mil/...dian-2016-2016/

 

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 1116 AM

Figures. And they will take those reduced numbers as evidence as having been partially successful in the sabre rattling, so will do more of it.

 

Sooner or later its going to occur to diplomats that if someone makes aggressive comments, you double down on troops in exercises. If that doesnt make the point you wont be intimidated, nothing will.



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 0855 AM

If the troop reduction wasn't planned then that's giving in. If the exercise went off as originally planned, it just happened that it didn't call for as many troops this year. Hard to change the plan and add in 5k just because at the last minute.

The exercises are happening and I suspect Bestest Korea will respond somehow, though I maintain he still can't afford to launch anything towards Guam and risk failure. We'll probably see some shorter ranged missile tests, or perhaps even nuke test 6. Though usually there are enough preps for a nuke test it isn't a surprise.

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 0930 AM

If the troop reduction wasn't planned then that's giving in. If the exercise went off as originally planned, it just happened that it didn't call for as many troops this year. Hard to change the plan and add in 5k just because at the last minute.

The exercises are happening and I suspect Bestest Korea will respond somehow, though I maintain he still can't afford to launch anything towards Guam and risk failure. We'll probably see some shorter ranged missile tests, or perhaps even nuke test 6. Though usually there are enough preps for a nuke test it isn't a surprise.

 

It's a fair point. While 2016 had 25,000, 2015 had 30,000. 2014 also had 30,000. And even 2013 had 30,000 as well as 2011. But further back, 2009 had only 10,000. Reasons could be many things. Maybe President Moon wanted less. But maybe the increase in US Naval activities in 2016 cut into available budget resulting in reductions in other areas. Or maybe in the years from 2010 to 2016, US and ROK forces achieved what they wanted to drill on the larger scale. Or maybe it is a gesture for China to notice in order to get China 's cooperation with North Korea in which case, hard to think it would be something suddenly decided on but perhaps decided on a couple of months ahead of time. Who knows. Whatever the reason or reasons may be, US participation is less this year than the 5 previous years.



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Posted Yesterday, 02:19 AM

If the troop reduction wasn't planned then that's giving in. If the exercise went off as originally planned, it just happened that it didn't call for as many troops this year. Hard to change the plan and add in 5k just because at the last minute.

The exercises are happening and I suspect Bestest Korea will respond somehow, though I maintain he still can't afford to launch anything towards Guam and risk failure. We'll probably see some shorter ranged missile tests, or perhaps even nuke test 6. Though usually there are enough preps for a nuke test it isn't a surprise.

 

From what I heard on the BBC (and they might be right or might be wrong) they claimed that the troop reduction was a means of reducing tension, though its not clear if they meant because of the present crisis, or the general rise in tension on the Korean peninsular this year.

 

Either way, its not good business. Imagine if we had done that in the Cold war in West Germany. The West Germans would have had kittens.



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Posted Yesterday, 02:24 AM

You know, in my view, its not about South Korea anymore. Well it is, but its a lot more than that. Because America's enemies around the world are watching how Trump responds to this, and are taking notes for the future. If you regard Pax Americana as being on the back foot, then any half hearted response to the Korean problem at this time, whilst dodging this particular bullet, may well come back to rebound on them in places like Afghanistan, the Persian Gulf, the Baltic states.

 

The days when you could pretend your policy in one part of the world could be wholly different from another, if that was every a serious proposition, have gone. In fact its always been the case in Korean, which was judged by the international community as a test over the status of Europe. Still is really.






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