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#2401 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0216 AM

 

Not sure why they dont include scotland? There are significant lines there that are 25AC, as well as the Glasgow underground system which would be I guess 1500v.


Scotland is coloured green as far as the Antonine Wall or thereabouts, which is fairly accurate. Electrification is limited to parts of the central belt and East and West Coast Main Lines south of Glasgow and Edinburgh. They've accidentally left the Western and Northern Isles coloured green too.

Glasgow Subway is 600V DC, converted from cable hauled.

 

 

Thats interesting, I has thought it was the same as the London Underground system.

 

Yeah, its ECML and WCML. They WERE going to put in an AC link as far as Glasgow Airport (one of our contractors actually went so far as build a model of it), but they never actually built it.

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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0218 AM

 

I take it that is why the locomotives are changed at the German-Dutch borders?

 

It could be because of incompatible signalling systems, also, but it is not rare that railway personnel's union demands also had something to do with that.

I think there is an ICE-3 sub series of EMUs able to run in the Netherlands, Belgium, and France.

 

 

I believe the original Eurostars were built to operate on 3 different voltages, UK 3rd Rail, French 25AC, and I think possibly a 1500v system. Im not aware of them running as far as the Netherlands though.


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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0222 AM

ICE-3, made by Siemens. Eurostars are TGV derivatives, made by Alstom.


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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0224 AM

Thats interesting, I has thought it was the same as the London Underground system.
 
Yeah, its ECML and WCML. They WERE going to put in an AC link as far as Glasgow Airport (one of our contractors actually went so far as build a model of it), but they never actually built it.
https://steamcdn-a.a...df?t=1486637143


Glasgow Subway is unusual in many respects.

There's a lot more than E&WCML electrified in Scotland: Glasgow suburban lines (out to about 40 miles), Edinburgh/Glasgow/Stirling triangle, and some branches off ECML. The electrified Inverclyde Line already runs past Glasgow Airport, but the GARL is a whole extra cockup.
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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0230 AM

Stirling is electrified? Is that new, It didnt appear to be when I was up there 5 years ago?

 

I was just checking, the Borders railway is also partly electrified, though only as far as Newcraighall. Im surprised they didnt electrify the whole thing, it was certainly fitted for it at a later date.


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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0231 AM

ICE-3, made by Siemens. Eurostars are TGV derivatives, made by Alstom.

 

Yes thats right. The replacement Eurostar is Siemens built though I gather. I believe Alstrom was a bit pissed about that.

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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0251 AM

Stirling is electrified? Is that new, It didnt appear to be when I was up there 5 years ago?
 
I was just checking, the Borders railway is also partly electrified, though only as far as Newcraighall. Im surprised they didnt electrify the whole thing, it was certainly fitted for it at a later date.


Stirling was electrified under EGIP in the last few years.

Borders was done on the cheap, single track.
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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0300 AM

Yes, I suppose it had to be that or it wouldnt be done at all. Although with it being as popular as it is, it would probably warrant electrifying and  more trains.

 

I still keep hoping it will be finished off by extending it back to Carlisle. It would be a really useful secondary route if the ECML or WCML are ever shut for any reason.


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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0500 AM

I take it that is why the locomotives are changed at the German-Dutch borders?


Bad Bentheim, I presume. Yes, the Class 101 locomotives lack the DC capability.

The 406 subclass of the ICE 3 is equipped to run in Belgium and the Netherlands, too but not in ... Wait, there are 406 who run in France and Belgium but they can't in the Netherlands. Then there is the class 407, purpose built for going into France. They are mostly on the Dortmund - Stuttgart line.
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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0559 AM

I took this screen shot from a vid on facebook. Translation said "Fast Rail Belgrade-Budapest, test drive"

 

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"Just" a joke about prolonged construction of the same and corruption scandals about it - Chinese company will build whole high-speed line in 3 years time, but local companies will take 5 years for a "safety zone" - iow cutting some trees and erecting anti-noise barriers... :(

 

Pic ain't from here, 100%.


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Posted 24 July 2019 - 0937 AM

Figure this would be interesting for all you train people.

 

https://www.dailyher...to-west-chicago

 

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Posted 24 July 2019 - 1458 PM

Figure this would be interesting for all you train people.

 

https://www.dailyher...to-west-chicago

 

S/F....Ken M

 

Thanks!

 

I saw one in Denver, and joked with the receptionist about bringing it with me, but that I thought it was difficult to put the engine within my cabin luggage.

It would be quite the experience to see one in motion, and anyone near Chicago who is mechanically inclined should try to see 4014.


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#2413 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 25 July 2019 - 0149 AM

I particularly like the bit where they talk about the US being the most industrial power in the world, in the V/O on the footage of the Valentine tank....


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Posted 25 July 2019 - 0710 AM

 

Figure this would be interesting for all you train people.

 

https://www.dailyher...to-west-chicago

 

S/F....Ken M

 

Thanks!

 

I saw one in Denver, and joked with the receptionist about bringing it with me, but that I thought it was difficult to put the engine within my cabin luggage.

It would be quite the experience to see one in motion, and anyone near Chicago who is mechanically inclined should try to see 4014.

 

If you can't have the full size, how about a 1.6 scale one. http://www.trainweb....ive steam 2.htm


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Posted 25 July 2019 - 0811 AM

Nifty! But that one still does not fit into cabin luggage...  :(


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Posted 25 July 2019 - 0826 AM

Nifty! But that one still does not fit into cabin luggage...  :(

N scale

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Posted 25 July 2019 - 0953 AM

Nifty! But that one still does not fit into cabin luggage...  :(

Maybe we can find you one here https://www.caboosehobbies.com/  It's not too far away.


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Posted 26 July 2019 - 0447 AM

I just went past a Greater Anglia MU and I'm in Saxony. Do UK trains already Brexit or are they climate refugees like me? The world wonders. ;)
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Posted 26 July 2019 - 0449 AM

Any idea what the class of train it was?

 

Im guessing they might be testing ETRMS. We a smaller system for operating on branch lines that supposedly nobody else in Europe has. That is a pure guess on my part though.


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Posted 26 July 2019 - 0623 AM

I think one of these.

https://www.railadve...35-1068x601.jpg
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