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#81 Panzermann

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 1235 PM

The press release is a bit thin as to reasons why the two have been dropped and the other two moved on. Any infos why the vehicles have been selected?


Well for the STK Terrex the risk of a very new system was too.high I guess. But the rest?
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Posted 28 July 2016 - 1623 PM

The companies themselves are yet to be debriefed, so we'll see.

Word around the campfire includes:

ESL/STK;
- The technical maturity of the 'Sentinel II' platform was lower than every other contender (like you say).
- The turret had yet to be live fired.
- The ADF would've been the lead customer for the turret, had it been selected.
- Elbit's performance on major projects in Australia since 2011 is patchy.

GDLS/Thales:
- the remote turret wasn't viewed favourably - at all - by the user community.
- The height of the LAV(CRV) wasn't viewed favourably.
- Thales had just been awarded the Protected Mobility Vehicle - Light (PMV-L) contract for 1,300 Hawkei.

Value for money hasn't been discussed, & is unknown.

I'm expecting that at least on of the three Boxer CRV RMA trucks will be up-gunned to 35mm.
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Posted 30 July 2016 - 2246 PM

It's a wheeled death trap. Im betting on the AMV.


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Posted 30 July 2016 - 2250 PM

Any specifics on what was not liked about the GDLS / Thales turret? 


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Posted 31 July 2016 - 0023 AM

Any specifics on what was not liked about the GDLS / Thales turret? 


Though offered by GDLS/Thales, the turret is the Kongsberg RCT-30.

From what I've heard, the gripe list included low ammunition capacity, low crew SA, high CoG.
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Posted 05 May 2017 - 1817 PM


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 1833 PM

I like the idea of a reconnaissance vehicle that is so large you can stand on top of the turret and peer over the next mountain range,it makes sense really. 


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Posted 06 May 2017 - 1514 PM

Interesting that the examples given don't include the turreted mission module. I wouldn't be surprised if a turret lift was required first.

Clearly they're attempting to differentiate their eight-wheeled box from the functionally indistinguishable competing eight-wheeled box that is 2/3 the price.
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Posted 06 May 2017 - 2134 PM

Has there ever been a vehicle family ground / sea / or air that was ever put into service, that made practical use of these mission module "pod" type design features? I know the CH-54 Tarhe was designed to have module mission pods, but I don't think they saw large scale use. 

 

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 0429 AM

danish StanFlex naval design has been on active use since early 1990´s, but they don´t do the ´´at the start of the war lay mines, then convert to FAC, and at the end of it , become MCMV´´ as it was designed, but re-role vessels. also it´s nice way to re-use modules on next ship, if old one goes to breakers. i think  they took some stuff from older corvettes and put it on new frigates for example.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StanFlex


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Posted 07 May 2017 - 0449 AM

Thunderbird 2?

https://flyawaysimul...bird-2-fsx2.jpg
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Posted 07 May 2017 - 1519 PM

Interesting that the examples given don't include the turreted mission module. I wouldn't be surprised if a turret lift was required first.

Clearly they're attempting to differentiate their eight-wheeled box from the functionally indistinguishable competing eight-wheeled box that is 2/3 the price.

Yeah, why not just drop the ramp, strip out old fittings (eg, stretcher racks) and replace with appropriate fittings (troop seats or equipment racks) for subsequent missions?


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 0853 AM

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 2038 PM

The one on the left will be banned in the Olympics for steroid abuse. :D


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 0633 AM

http://images.defenc...f000000_003.png

Big trucks.
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Posted 07 June 2017 - 0737 AM

http://images.defenc...f000000_003.png

Big trucks.

 
from the descrition: "(L-R) Rheinmetall Boxer CRV, BAE Systems Australia - Patria AMV-35, an Australian Army Abrams Main Battle Tank and an Australian Army Light Armoured Vehicle on the live fire range at Mount Bundey Military training area, Northern Territory."
 
Both make the Abrams and ASLAV look small.
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Posted 07 June 2017 - 0745 AM

Yep. They're many things, little isn't one of them. I'm biased toward Boxer CRV, but my money is on the AMV35.
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Posted 07 June 2017 - 1151 AM


8 bolts.....?
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Posted 09 June 2017 - 0515 AM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn_WblYc4xk


8 bolts.....?


The box is held in place by its shape and its own weight. the eight bolts are just there as additional holders.
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Posted 09 June 2017 - 2302 PM

But is it worth 30% more, price wise?
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