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#1 Dawes

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Posted 03 June 2019 - 1924 PM

Presumably, eight aircraft meet whatever requirements they have?

 

 

https://www.dsca.mil...garia_19-36.pdf


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#2 Panzermann

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Posted 04 June 2019 - 1050 AM

Bulgaria is poor. They do not have money for more.


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 1911 PM

From reading the news, they aren't happy with the quoted price anyway.


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 1918 PM

From reading the news, they aren't happy with the quoted price anyway.

Make a deal on the trade in


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 1922 PM

From looking at the announcement, the request includes a token amount of munitions. Looks like a very limited training amount and a few war reserves (unless they intend to request a follow-up order?).


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 1937 PM

Bulgaria was spending 2% or more on defense 10 years ago. Since then its been 1.5ish with last year apparantly 1.55. But would more money into fighter jets be worth the money? Expensive items like fighter jets really only reach full potential when the system of systems comes with it. Full training, full munitions, meaningful aircraft quantity, long term upgrade gurantee, any supporting air, sea, or ground based radars, etc. Would it be worthwhile for Bulgaria to push back to 2%? I suppose the starting point is as to whether or not ground forces are getting the proper training and equipment.
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Posted 05 June 2019 - 1227 PM

Unless you don't mind having an airliner flying into buildings, some kind of fighter is needed. Bulgaria has MiG-29s and those will eventually run out of hours


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 1321 PM

An armed advanced trainer along the lines of a Yak-130 might be ideal for Bulgaria's needs.


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 1400 PM

Not as a NATO member, they have enjoyed Russian tech support since the Cold War and predictably they want something better.


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 1406 PM

Unless you don't mind having an airliner flying into buildings, some kind of fighter is needed. Bulgaria has MiG-29s and those will eventually run out of hours

 

I don't think this is a true concern of Bulgaria. If it is, they will need more than eight fighters to fulfill that kind of need.


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 0111 AM

An armed advanced trainer along the lines of a Yak-130 might be ideal for Bulgaria's needs.

 

The Yak-130 is subsonic, so not really useful for air policing.

 

 

The Korean T-50 Golden Hawk seems like a good offer and is more or less NATO standards compatible and supersonic. But only Mach 1.5. So some jets still can run away.


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 2141 PM

Not a fan of the Korean Wave, personally, but I think the Golden Eagle would be a good choice for Bulgaria's needs as well.


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 2150 PM

You would think that they could have gotten a lot better deal on some refurbished/upgraded F-16 Block 40/50 models (assuming that the USAF or someone had excess airframes). 


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Posted 07 June 2019 - 0138 AM

You would think that they could have gotten a lot better deal on some refurbished/upgraded F-16 Block 40/50 models (assuming that the USAF or someone had excess airframes). 

 

Cheaper? Yes, in the short run. Better? No.


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Posted 08 June 2019 - 0818 AM

When you have unfriendly neighbours, you need a capability that requires them to think a little before messing you about.

Also, you need high performance for the day to day QRA role as already mentioned.
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Posted 08 June 2019 - 0831 AM

What unfriendly neighbours does Bulgaria have?


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Posted 20 June 2019 - 2013 PM

They might be anticipating Turkey getting booted from NATO.
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 0559 AM

They might be anticipating Turkey getting booted from NATO.

Never gonna happen.


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#19 Josh

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Posted 21 June 2019 - 0650 AM

There isnt even a mechanism for that AFAIK.
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 1143 AM

JF-17 seems to be good bang for the buck.


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