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#1 Mr King

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 0035 AM

Soviet raid on a mujaheddin compound. Ends with a pretty spectacular blast. 

 


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 0239 AM

Looks staged to me, no return fire and the helos arent firing flares, which woul have been SOP in 88.
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Posted 06 September 2014 - 0619 AM

Looks staged to me, no return fire and the helos arent firing flares, which woul have been SOP in 88.

 

That is a good point.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 1242 PM

Here's looking at yoooooou!

 

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 1421 PM

Yeah, on the other hand those Hinds...

 

Few years ago there's been some 'celebration' in 'Polish area', there was a lot of our military personnel and locals, when suddenly few of our Hinds made a low pass above. I heard that older Afghans almost shat their pants.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 1648 PM

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 1710 PM

Song from Soviet Afghan war, "Over the Mountains Helicopters Fly"

Videois from "Afghan Breakdown" movie, but can fool people often (movie is quite authentic, it was made in Turkmenistan with extras being troops just withdrawn from Afghanistan, village blown apart in the end is one of "training villages" etc.).


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 1746 PM

@RETAC:

 

At 2.02  one can see that the helo actually does pop (some) flares. Could still be a staged vid thogh offcourse, but..


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 1959 PM

Yeah, on the other hand those Hinds...

 

Few years ago there's been some 'celebration' in 'Polish area', there was a lot of our military personnel and locals, when suddenly few of our Hinds made a low pass above. I heard that older Afghans almost shat their pants.

 

:lol:


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 0010 AM

Yeah, on the other hand those Hinds...
 
Few years ago there's been some 'celebration' in 'Polish area', there was a lot of our military personnel and locals, when suddenly few of our Hinds made a low pass above. I heard that older Afghans almost shat their pants.


Same thing happened to one of the old British guys I work with, spent a few years patrolling the border in Germany in the 80s getting ready for the red storm to rise, then in the ghan one day a pair of Afghan hinds flies over them. Reckons he almost dove for cover thinking they were ruskies.
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Posted 07 September 2014 - 0802 AM


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 0004 AM

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#13 Roman Alymov

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 0552 AM

 

Videois from "Afghan Breakdown" movie, but can fool people often (movie is quite authentic, it was made in Turkmenistan with extras being troops just withdrawn from Afghanistan, village blown apart in the end is one of "training villages" etc.).

This film is often believed to be best ever made about this far (probably will remain the best since it was filmed with people and mood of the time, no way to make it again)

  Another song vidoe clip based on the same film

 

Film on-line http://tfilm.tv/9343...skiy-izlom.html

 

About relations Soviet\Russians vs. Afghans –  there are many reports on Afghans considering Russians as sort of “good enemy” since Soviets, basing on centuries-old experience with the region and very limited cultural and technological gap, where sort of understandable and close to Afghans.

Football match between Soviet and Mojahed veterans in Kabul, followed by Soviet veteran visiting his Afghan friends in their mountain villages (and paying $100 to clear snow out from memorial to fallen soviet soldiers). Then plants once build by Soviets…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjZ-sR74e-I


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#14 Roman Alymov

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 0616 AM


It probably says less about how well the Soviets were thought of during the war, than about how adept Afghans are at reinventing their own history, the memory of the 'Good' war.

 

I think they just do not have European tradition of demonizing enemy (and even for Europe it is relatively new, dating back probably to WWI propaganda efforts).


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 0628 AM

If the Soviets could not civilize this place, and drag it out of the 7th century, why did we have the hubris to think we could do better?


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 0639 AM

I once had 5-6 of the buggers fly over my house. Turned out it was the Czech Air Force display team over for IAT, but for a couple of minutes I was distinctly concerned. :D

Well, when TN contingent was going (behind schedule, as always) to Bahna mil. event and we had a flight of Hinds crossing the landscape in front of our cars, the airwaves lit up with suggestions to disperse our 3-car convoy :)


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 0651 AM

If the Soviets could not civilize this place, and drag it out of the 7th century, why did we have the hubris to think we could do better?

I do not think “civilize” is right word  - Central Asia got own civilization, different from West.  From Tajik clan working in our summer house region for last 10 years at least one guy is specialist in Farsi poetry, educated by Teheran university – who am I to consider him uncivilized, even if he works as illegal migrant here in Russia?   Soviets managed to change Soviet Central Asia before WWII – with great deal of lives lost from both sides and two decades to reach results – with outside opposition limited to minor British efforts (continuation of “Big Game” containment). The same was possible in Afghanistan,    but this time opposing side was too powerful with US providing assistance to traditionalists.


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 0700 AM

I do not think “civilize” is right word  - Central Asia got own civilization, different from West.

 

At some point USSR Central Republics were considered a model for other Muslim countries in the region. Rodric Braitwaite mentions it in his book on the Afghanistan War.  


Edited by alejandro_, 15 September 2014 - 0700 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 2054 PM

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 2055 PM

Soviets interrogating a mujaheddin 

 

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