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#16001 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1013 AM

Ok, thanks for clearing that up Soren.


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#16002 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1035 AM

going back a few posts

 

You missed where a Leftist Bernie Sanders supporter gunned down Republican Congressmen whilst they played baseball?

Seriously?


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#16003 BansheeOne

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1039 AM

Norway and Finland, they're splitters!, but the question is if any constitutional reform restarts the clock.


I was thinking a bit about what constitutes a "new" system. If the benchmark is the US and UK, even they have undergone constutional reforms (like for the Senate and House of Lords respectively) and moved towards greater democratic rights, extended suffrage to more voters, etc. Still, these were all developments within the same constitutional frameworks, notwithstanding even the odd civil war. Arguably it's the same for Sweden, despite the oscillation between constitutional and absolute monarchy, and parliamentary reform. OTOH, I would class the Swiss changes between confederation and federal republic (which it is despite officially calling itself the Swiss Confederation, just like the CSA were) as system changes.

Another question is if foreign occupation with imposed puppet regimes constitutes a break if you return to the old system after liberation? That's why I didn't even look at the Netherlands, though their constitution actually dates from 1815, older than the current Swiss one.
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#16004 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1049 AM

going back a few posts

 

You missed where a Leftist Bernie Sanders supporter gunned down Republican Congressmen whilst they played baseball?

Seriously?

 

Yes, It never made the news here. Go figure.


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#16005 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1058 AM

I'm not really surprised that it didn't make the news but it was covered fairly thoroughly here on TankNet.

 

Representative Steve Scalise nearly died from the attack.  He eventually was able to walk again.


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#16006 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1304 PM

I must have missed it, I'm s ure I would have remembered the T shirt.

I'm glad he is ok btw.
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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1312 PM

https://www.newsobse...e237364239.html

 

 

“The bottom line is that North Carolina, like Kansas before it, has shown that cutting taxes does not have much, if any, positive impact on job creation,” Mazerov said.

What drives state economies, he said, is state spending on education, transportation and amenities such as parks.

Mazerov said, “States are shooting themselves in the foot when they cut taxes and cut back on investments in these crucial building blocks of the state economy.”

 

Once again trickle down voodoo economics failed.

 

The Republicans keep insisting voodoo economics work, claiming a boom after every major tax cut.

That's not meeting the definition of insanity, that's outright lying and pursuit of plutocracy. They're ripping 90% of the nation off in pursuit of the interests of 1%, and they fool roughly a third of the people into supporting them with lies, fearmongering and hatemongering.


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1349 PM

https://www.newsobse...e237364239.html

 

 

“The bottom line is that North Carolina, like Kansas before it, has shown that cutting taxes does not have much, if any, positive impact on job creation,” Mazerov said.

What drives state economies, he said, is state spending on education, transportation and amenities such as parks.

Mazerov said, “States are shooting themselves in the foot when they cut taxes and cut back on investments in these crucial building blocks of the state economy.”

 

Once again trickle down voodoo economics failed.

 

The Republicans keep insisting voodoo economics work, claiming a boom after every major tax cut.

That's not meeting the definition of insanity, that's outright lying and pursuit of plutocracy. They're ripping 90% of the nation off in pursuit of the interests of 1%, and they fool roughly a third of the people into supporting them with lies, fearmongering and hatemongering.

How does tax cuts equate with rip  off.


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1442 PM

 

https://www.newsobse...e237364239.html

 

 

“The bottom line is that North Carolina, like Kansas before it, has shown that cutting taxes does not have much, if any, positive impact on job creation,” Mazerov said.

What drives state economies, he said, is state spending on education, transportation and amenities such as parks.

Mazerov said, “States are shooting themselves in the foot when they cut taxes and cut back on investments in these crucial building blocks of the state economy.”

 

Once again trickle down voodoo economics failed.

 

The Republicans keep insisting voodoo economics work, claiming a boom after every major tax cut.

That's not meeting the definition of insanity, that's outright lying and pursuit of plutocracy. They're ripping 90% of the nation off in pursuit of the interests of 1%, and they fool roughly a third of the people into supporting them with lies, fearmongering and hatemongering.

How does tax cuts equate with rip  off.

 

 

You are taking money from its rightful owner, the Guvmint


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1543 PM

I'm glad he is ok btw.

 

Being able to walk again does not necessarily equate to "being OK"...


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1832 PM

 

 

https://www.newsobse...e237364239.html

 

 

“The bottom line is that North Carolina, like Kansas before it, has shown that cutting taxes does not have much, if any, positive impact on job creation,” Mazerov said.

What drives state economies, he said, is state spending on education, transportation and amenities such as parks.

Mazerov said, “States are shooting themselves in the foot when they cut taxes and cut back on investments in these crucial building blocks of the state economy.”

 

Once again trickle down voodoo economics failed.

 

The Republicans keep insisting voodoo economics work, claiming a boom after every major tax cut.

That's not meeting the definition of insanity, that's outright lying and pursuit of plutocracy. They're ripping 90% of the nation off in pursuit of the interests of 1%, and they fool roughly a third of the people into supporting them with lies, fearmongering and hatemongering.

How does tax cuts equate with rip  off.

 

 

You are taking money from its rightful owner, the Guvmint

 

 

No. Joe Average has to pay the bills of the state in the end, because someone has to. And he has to live with the crumbling infrastructure. The 1% make their business on the very infrastructure they do not pay their share for upkeep. 


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#16012 Detonable

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1912 PM

Actually, Joe Average doesnt pay that much of the Federal tax burden. A small percentage of Americans pay 40% of the federal tax.

Quite a large percentage pays no tax and receives money from the government.
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Posted 19 November 2019 - 1915 PM

That's not how I understood her.
 
She said that whatever disagreement she has with the president's policy is up for the election, and that the question of whether or not the president attempted to strong-arm Ukraine into investigating the Bidens was up for impeachment, a matter of congress's duty to control the government. And that's not up for vote, but a legal (if politicized) process.


He's on a roll.
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Posted 19 November 2019 - 2149 PM

Stuart, there were attempted political assasinations in the US. Someone in a Bernie Sanders T-shirt opened fire on a group of Republican legislators. Theres also been continuous harassment of Republican officials in public, such as when out to dinner.

These are much different circumstances than I remember 30 years ago, for example.

 

Threre also were people who sent bombs, working or otherwise, to left wing politicians and perceived media enemies of Trump.


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 2154 PM

 

Since 1783, the United States has been the exemplar of democracy in action - flawed though it was and flawed(though much less so( it remains. There is good reason why it is the number one destination of immigrants, especially those of colour, and it ain't because of the paleness of most of the people.

 

Well said, thank you. The post above yours read like the Onion.

 

 

Apparently the original post I was responding to, much like the next one after it*, were rooted less in color on the face of it (hah!) and more on specifically religion. Perhaps not Onion worthy, but it sounds ridiculous in any modern context. Is that an ideology you subscribe to?

 

* Seahawk: "Because the reject the Lord as their saviour."

 

ETA: presumably 'they' and 'savior', I retained the direct quote rather than put letters in anyone's mouth.


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 2157 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Answer me this:  Why are the leadership of the Democrat Party, and those on the Left ALL connected to Paedophiles, sexual abusers, and abusers of women, and defend said people?

Crickets from our resident lefties?
 
If you want a discussion, you need to tone down the craziness.
 
No craziness just a question.  
From the sideline, I did not understand it was a real question, and not just an outburst.

Are there records, charges, convictions that support your claim/question? Ie, the "all" part?

 

 

It's interesting to see a loaded question with presupposed assumptions like this from a person claiming to be a police officer.

Simply stating "just a question" on that is quite remarkable.

 

 

It is more interesting to see him give a more balanced assessment of Imperial Japan than he ever would an opposing political party, and that is I why I don't respond to his "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" style of questioning.


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 2232 PM


Stuart, there were attempted political assasinations in the US. Someone in a Bernie Sanders T-shirt opened fire on a group of Republican legislators. Theres also been continuous harassment of Republican officials in public, such as when out to dinner.

These are much different circumstances than I remember 30 years ago, for example.

 
Threre also were people who sent bombs, working or otherwise, to left wing politicians and perceived media enemies of Trump.

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 2232 PM


Stuart, there were attempted political assasinations in the US. Someone in a Bernie Sanders T-shirt opened fire on a group of Republican legislators. Theres also been continuous harassment of Republican officials in public, such as when out to dinner.

These are much different circumstances than I remember 30 years ago, for example.

 
Threre also were people who sent bombs, working or otherwise, to left wing politicians and perceived media enemies of Trump.

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#16019 rmgill

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Posted 19 November 2019 - 2316 PM

 

Stuart, there were attempted political assasinations in the US. Someone in a Bernie Sanders T-shirt opened fire on a group of Republican legislators. Theres also been continuous harassment of Republican officials in public, such as when out to dinner.
These are much different circumstances than I remember 30 years ago, for example.


I must have missed that one, though needless to say if he was wearing a Sanders T shirt, id be tempted to put his motives at insanity...

 

Seriously? I thought your news was all sorts of good at covering everything closely and properly. Hodgkinson didn't just _WEAR_ a t-shirt. He worked for the campaign. 

https://en.wikipedia...seball_shooting


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 2319 PM

I'm not really surprised that it didn't make the news but it was covered fairly thoroughly here on TankNet.

 

Representative Steve Scalise nearly died from the attack.  He eventually was able to walk again.

What do you want to bet that if a Ron Paul Campaign Worker shot up a Democrat congressional event that it would have been on the European/British news for weeks? 

 


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