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#361 Nobu

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 2204 PM

Time for the rudderless tanker with no name to return home. Its rudderless government deserves nothing less. I expected better from them.
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#362 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 0225 AM

 

 

Sinkex, but nobody would dare.

 
About a dozen limpet mines, all sprayed with Hebrew markings. Bish Bash Bosh.
It's not a long trip from Cyprus to the Syrian coast. A fistful of Paveways... Is it too much to ask for?

 

 

 

Just jam her GPS and watch her crash into Tripoli. Nuthin' to do with us Guvnor....


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#363 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 1101 AM

What action has Iran taken where anyone would "expect better of them"?

It's a ridiculous notion.

The saying "Beware Persians..." has been around a long time for a reason


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 2208 PM

The First Persian Empire under Cyrus II may be considered something their modern-day descendants can and should take pride of culture in.

 

The Iranian emphasis on hospitality that descends from Persian culture is another.


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#365 Colin

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 0132 AM

Tanker is 2.0nm off of Tatlus

 

http://www.bta.bg/en.../?image=6054251


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#366 JasonJ

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 0146 AM

Tanker is 2.0nm off of Tatlus

 

http://www.bta.bg/en.../?image=6054251

 

In other spelling, Tartus. Couldn't find Tatlus.


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#367 Colin

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 0956 AM

sorry my bad


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Posted 07 September 2019 - 1051 AM

Tanker is 2.0nm off of Tatlus
 
http://www.bta.bg/en.../?image=6054251


So close and yet so far.
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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1040 AM

Saudi Arabian oil producing facilities attacked by drones, causing fires and cutting oil production. Pompeo says Iran conducted the attack.
https://www.google.c...e-east-49703143
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#370 Josh

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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1424 PM

That is a very long ranged attack made by people who knew the precise aim points to disable a vast facility. At a minimum Iran provided the drones. It seems likely they also provided the targeting expertise as well, or simply Quds launched their own strike from Yemen to shift blame.

Is there any word on what type of drone was used? Ive heard nothing other than the fact ten were involved.
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#371 Brian Kennedy

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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1454 PM

If it is Iran-related, I wonder if this is a continuation of what seems to be a strategy of causing significant economic damage without killing anybody. Pretty smart actually.


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#372 RETAC21

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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1512 PM

From what I have seen so far, the attack seems to have originated in Iraq, the Yemenis claiming responsibility because SA.


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1654 PM

The KSA seemed to mention Iraq but I have a hard time believing Iran would threaten its position there with that kind of move. But I do think the attack was effectively a Quds attack, regardless of point of origin.


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 2100 PM

Its looks like precision munitions were used in this attack. That is, it wasn't just suicidal drones crashing into things; it looks like very consistant dead center holes were made in specific storage and cracking facilities. According to administration statements, it looks like as many as 17 separate impacts occurred. Pictures released:

https://iran.liveuam...assified-photos


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 2141 PM

Look at those blast points. Too accurate for Houthi rebel sandpeople in various ways.


Edited by Nobu, 15 September 2019 - 2234 PM.

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 0443 AM

Hah!
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#377 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 0454 AM

I dont go in for conspiracy theories, but this is all making my spidey sense tingle....


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Posted 16 September 2019 - 0519 AM

US is 'locked and loaded'.

https://www.independ...k-a9106616.html


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Posted 16 September 2019 - 0933 AM

Its worth noting not only could a guided munition approach from any given direction despite its launch point that the pictures that have been released are naturally not oriented directly north-south. This is the location:

 

https://www.google.c...942!4d45.079162

 

As you can see, if you spin the map to align with the released photos, the impacts are almost due west, maybe west north west.


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Posted 17 September 2019 - 0458 AM

I must claim absolutely no knowledge of how oil is stored or processed other than what google can teach. Also I likewise know extremely little or nothing of Iranian or Houthai UAV capability.

 

IIRC there have been 'foreign' drone activity in various locations in UAE  - around airports - I use the term foreign as it was not UAE forces. I think Oman had an incursion by large UAV in the last few days - or maybe that was Kuwait

 

I would never underestimate the capability of 'the sand people' - underestimation of a force only gets one in trouble. Maybe they did not make the intruding weapons but it may simply have been as simple as 'Al Houthi' getting a vehicle from 'Al Tehrani" and being told to park it in a specific location and head home.

 

Now a couple of questions:

from what I have seen on net it looks like 8 storage tank were hit (along with other things) there seems no evidence of fire at the 8 locations so would I be not too far off in thinking a straight forward not explosive kinetic slug could be responsible?

 

Could such be carried by drone...positions.. fired and maybe even more or less self destructing the drone. Iranians have experience with such slugs but land based.

 

Were the projectiles that hit the other locations similar? If now what were they?

 

Any thoughts on ship launch being an option?

 

Way out there - fly in drone with say 20kg attachment - land on storage tank - attach 'limpet' charge using magnet of sticky stuff -  either wait around for destruction or just fly away


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