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#41 JasonJ

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 0952 AM

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#42 Josh

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1015 AM

An LST...how quaint. Is there any supporting evidence that this is a rail gun? That seems like quite a great leap forward for a country that didn't have a modern navy 20 years ago. And it would take a lot of installed power in the cargo area to run one; the base engineering wouldn't do more than keep it warm.
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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1023 AM

An LST...how quaint. Is there any supporting evidence that this is a rail gun? That seems like quite a great leap forward for a country that didn't have a modern navy 20 years ago. And it would take a lot of installed power in the cargo area to run one; the base engineering wouldn't do more than keep it warm.

 

Just those pictures at the moment it seems. Sometimes it feels like China leaks new stuff like WarGaming does with WoT.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1042 AM

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1107 AM

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#46 Josh

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1119 AM

It is admittedly a big gun. Having never seen a rail gun installation, I can't say that doesn't look like one. However my bet is some kind of large caliber rapid fire conventional gun. It looks like there might be some kind of water cooling sleeve over the back half of the barrel.
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#47 Nobu

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1346 PM

Nothing about that photo of what looks like a prototype turbolaser makes me feel at ease.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1557 PM

It looks like the alleged rail-gun that was being tested ashore. 


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 1008 AM

Josh It is admittedly a big gun. Having never seen a rail gun installation, I can't say that doesn't look like one. However my bet is some kind of large caliber rapid fire conventional gun.

 

 

 

Is that thing on the ship or on the dock?  Because if its on the ship, I'd bet it’s too far to the bow to be a heavy gun turret.


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 1034 AM

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#51 chino

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 2308 PM

OK translation:

 

It is a 电磁炮 (electro-magnetic cannon), or 轨道炮 (rail gun).

 

This excerpt from http://news.ifeng.co...5670035_0.shtml

在人类的武器发展史中,总有一些装备因为能改变战争形态而具有划时代的意义,电磁炮就是这样一种武器。电磁炮,也叫轨道炮,是利用电磁发射技术制成的一种先进的动能杀伤武器。电磁炮是利用电磁系统中电磁场的作用力发射弹丸,其作用力不仅比传统火药作用力大,作用的时间也长得多。相比传统127mm舰炮30km的射程,电磁炮的射程可达300km,根据美国海军的计算和估测,1门电磁炮的火力支援能力能同F/A-18舰载机联队相媲美。

Game changing weapon. Uses electromagnetism to fire projectile. Not only more powerful than conventional powder charge guns, but also longer (I suppose) burning time. For e.g. conventional 127mm gun has 30km range, electromagnetic gun can reach 300km. According to USN data, 1 electromagnetic gun is equivalent to the firepower of 1 wing/squadron of carrier-based F18.

 

ETA: The above is not official PLAN statement. Could be real or could be fake.

 

Other articles claim that though China is late into the game researching electromagnetic cannons compared to US, if what is mounted on this ship is a working specimen, then China is now the leader in such weaponry.

 

Other articles say such weapon has very low recoil impulse - which may explain why mounting it so far forward in this experimental case will not pose a problem.


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#52 JasonJ

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 0354 AM

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#53 Colin

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 1359 PM

Nice looking ships, a bit of design features borrowed from other designs from around the world there.


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Posted 26 February 2018 - 0018 AM

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 2223 PM

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#57 Colin

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 0003 AM

 

Josh It is admittedly a big gun. Having never seen a rail gun installation, I can't say that doesn't look like one. However my bet is some kind of large caliber rapid fire conventional gun.

 

 

 

Is that thing on the ship or on the dock?  Because if its on the ship, I'd bet it’s too far to the bow to be a heavy gun turret.

 

Looks like they are using an older LST as a test rig, makes sense, lots of room to adapt things.


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Posted 28 March 2018 - 1433 PM

Does the rather impressive Type 22 missile boat have any way to use its CIWS against missiles or aircraft ? AFAICT it has no AA radar ? Is it cued by the electro-optical sensor suite ?


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#59 Josh

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 1438 PM

I can't believe they'd put an CIWS on it that could engage a subsonic missile, but I don't know the answer to that question. I'm a little surprised they didn't put their copy of RAM on it.
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Posted 28 March 2018 - 1449 PM

I cannot see any MR-123 type mount, or Type 347, which would be the standard targeting mechanism.


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