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Posted 21 May 2019 - 0742 AM

Ryan, the Lewis came to my mind as well... :P


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#4183 Chris Werb

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 0640 AM

Ryan, the Lewis came to my mind as well... :P

 

On the Lewis, was the forced air cooling arrangement actually worth the additional weight and cost?  I can only think of one infantry machinegun that has featured it since. 


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#4184 Markus Becker

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 0724 AM

AFAIK it wasn't. In the next war the shroud/tube was removed but the aluminium radiator fins were kept.

Edited by Markus Becker, 26 May 2019 - 0726 AM.

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 0738 AM

Scratch that. The picture in my mind was actually of a a Vickers K gun that never had a shroud.
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 0857 AM

Not black is a good way to reduce solar heating.

 

But that comes at the expence of the looks. If you want to be cool you got to feel the heat.  :D


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Posted 26 May 2019 - 1050 AM

Scratch that. The picture in my mind was actually of a a Vickers K gun that never had a shroud.

 

With the BREN they went to quick barrel change instead. Whether they made the right choice or not depends on doctrine, I suppose.


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Posted 26 May 2019 - 1146 AM

The FM 24/29 didn't have a quick change barrel but remained in 1st line service until the 1960s. 

 

History and mechanics. 

 

Shooting the gun. 


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Posted 26 May 2019 - 1149 AM

Into the 90s with some French internal security units, apparently!


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Posted 26 May 2019 - 1356 PM

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 1517 PM

AFAIK it wasn't. In the next war the shroud/tube was removed but the aluminium radiator fins were kept.

 

 

Scratch that. The picture in my mind was actually of a a Vickers K gun that never had a shroud.

 

 

The British Homeguard used Lewis guns sometimes assembled from leftover parts from WW1. Others overhauled and the shrouds removed to save weight.


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Posted 26 May 2019 - 1537 PM

 

AFAIK it wasn't. In the next war the shroud/tube was removed but the aluminium radiator fins were kept.

 

 

Scratch that. The picture in my mind was actually of a a Vickers K gun that never had a shroud.

 

 

The British Homeguard used Lewis guns sometimes assembled from leftover parts from WW1. Others overhauled and the shrouds removed to save weight.

 

 

Most HG Lewis Guns were air service guns converted for ground use in either .303 or .30-06, with thousands of the latter supplied by Uncle Sam. I honestly don't remember seeing anything to the effect that shrouds were removed from Land Service guns to save weight? I'd be very interested to learn more. Do you have a primary source for that?
 

Here are some HG type Lewis guns.

 

https://www.home-gua...pics/lib005.jpg

 

https://www.dandbmil...d/s/dsc_423.jpg

 

https://www.ima-usa....ant=26170428165

 

http://www.deddingto... group_bren.jpg

 

https://i.redd.it/myffrgn6sqzz.jpg


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 1310 PM

This is an US Army research department on drugs...  :blink:

https://techlinkcent...ocity-firearms/


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 1634 PM

Hypervelocity? Someone didn't get the memo that 5.56 and the AR is King and God Emperor?
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Posted 06 June 2019 - 0901 AM

 Mk2019 Handwavium.  Pesky thing about AR and 5.56; they work.


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 1656 PM

This is an US Army research department on drugs...  :blink:

https://techlinkcent...ocity-firearms/

 

I did wonder if this was an April the 1st article at first. Would that screw breech locking system really be better than multiple rows of AR style locking lugs? It would take a lot less camming to unlock. 


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 1901 PM


This is an US Army research department on drugs...  :blink:
https://techlinkcent...ocity-firearms/

 
I did wonder if this was an April the 1st article at first. Would that screw breech locking system really be better than multiple rows of AR style locking lugs? It would take a lot less camming to unlock. 

I was more wondering the same thing but more about barrel wear. Sure most belt fed machine guns have quick change barrels but not a lot of rifles do and I'm sure it would be a logistical nightmare having to change out barrels after every fire fight as squeeze bore and hyper velocity ammo has horrendous barrel life usually in the hundreds of rounds it works for tank barrels but not for small arms.
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 0014 AM

Photo album of Koborov's guns:

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 0401 AM

This is an US Army research department on drugs...  :blink:
https://techlinkcent...ocity-firearms/

 
I did wonder if this was an April the 1st article at first. Would that screw breech locking system really be better than multiple rows of AR style locking lugs? It would take a lot less camming to unlock.


Not a new idea, but it has its drawbacks, like needing a lot of force to unlock: https://en.wikipedia...i/Machine_taper
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Posted 12 June 2019 - 0557 AM

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