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#21 KV7

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Posted 06 May 2018 - 2205 PM

The immediate issue is do you get enough of Zhukov's forces to around Halbe in time to stop the 9th Army if you bypass Seelow. I cannot see why it could not be done, thought the required salient would be long and thin, if the forces around Seelow were not reduced on the way. Possibly the German forces at Seelow would have tried to retreat and link up with the 9th, which would have led to an engagement around Fürstenwald to stop them moving; as they retreated the 33rd Army could infill.


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#22 RETAC21

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 1000 AM

 

At the operational level, Zhukov could have feinted an attack elsewhere to draw reserves away, and at the tactical level recon could have been much better, for starters, identifying the unsuitability of the ground, and that commitment of tanks was an error. But also remember that of all the front commanders, Zhukov was the less experienced, as he hadn't comanded a front since 1941, having been a coordinator and Stavka representative ever since, having other commanders under him doing the nitty gritty details.

IMHO not, as long as loosing tank crews is much less expensive in terms of number of lives lost than using infantry without tanks. Anyway, I have to support KV7’s advise in directing you to whole body of modern Russian literature about this topic, as Seelow Heights Assault is one of the most discussed topics.

 

 

But nothing in English?


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 2105 PM

 

 

At the operational level, Zhukov could have feinted an attack elsewhere to draw reserves away, and at the tactical level recon could have been much better, for starters, identifying the unsuitability of the ground, and that commitment of tanks was an error. But also remember that of all the front commanders, Zhukov was the less experienced, as he hadn't comanded a front since 1941, having been a coordinator and Stavka representative ever since, having other commanders under him doing the nitty gritty details.

IMHO not, as long as loosing tank crews is much less expensive in terms of number of lives lost than using infantry without tanks. Anyway, I have to support KV7’s advise in directing you to whole body of modern Russian literature about this topic, as Seelow Heights Assault is one of the most discussed topics.

 

 

But nothing in English?

 

Someone really should start translating some of this work.


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