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[Marek Tucan]

As you may have noticed, USSR DDs and DE cruisers will come into game soon - you may have met them already.

 

Generally speaking, USSR DDs are more like light cruisers (definitely once the Italians come into play) - fast, big, with main focus on guns. Not sure I like them, though for good players they offer some advantages... However they are also quite easy to hit as they are kinda sluggish.

 

DE cruisers have mostly nice flat trajectory guns, so they hit quite a lot, but them Germans should have built them with somewhat stronger armor. I mean citadels are nicely hidden, but still the ships are quite squishy. Though fast turrets in most cases can balance it out... Solid ships I would say, but sore disappointment for Wehraboos

[Colin]

I am liking my Japanese premium BB, plays a bit like a cruiser, fairly fast, turns well and hits hard 

[Corinthian]

I am liking my Japanese premium BB, plays a bit like a cruiser, fairly fast, turns well and hits hard 

 

Which one? The Iz-somethingsomething-chi Tier II BB?

 

I am so excited for the Soviet DDs.

Edited by Corinthian, 07 October 2015 - 2012 PM.

[Colin]

yes  http://worldofwarshi...shop-ishizuchi/

 

Marek your teams need to proof read, she has 2 more turrets than the Mygoi, not just two more guns.....

 

 

http://wiki.wargamin..._Ishizuchi_1921

Edited by Colin, 07 October 2015 - 2206 PM.

[Corinthian]

How is Ishi's gun accuracy? Not as bad as Kawachi's?

[Marek Tucan]

Woah woah no Japanese here, this is a topic about the RU/DE ships that are coming in a week and a bit

 

Anyway since I participate in Test Drive, was able to try out Kiev yesterday in Ranked battles... Was interesting. Initially tried to play it like a US DD, but it is bigger, so gets spotted easier... And hit easier. Plus 4 km torp range is really, really awful. However the guns are great and it even has the twin 85mm AA acting as secondaries - the thing eats enemy DDs for lunch, but suffers the minute a cruiser or a BB can pay it an undivided attention for few salvos as the relatively sluggish rudder makes dodging harder. 

 

High speed with boost on the other hand allows successful ambushes of corner hugging cruisers and BBs.

[Markus Becker]

What is a "DE cruiser"?

[Marek Tucan]

Reichtangle cruiser! Can into Anschluss, cannot into being hit

[TonyE]

Die Kreuzer! Jawohl!

[Markus Becker]

Reichtangle cruiser! Can into Anschluss, cannot into being hit

Now I'm even more confused!?!

[Corinthian]

DE - DEutschland - Germany

[Marek Tucan]

German cruisers and Stalinium Imperial Russian and Soviet destroyers are coming in on 19th in following composition:

RU DD

DE CL/CA

[RETAC21]

Was there really a need for so many paper designs?

[sunday]

Was there really a need for so many paper designs?

 

Ha! Wait until they introduce fluvial aircraft carriers. Then the US, JP and UK trees will have to use paper designs too! 

Edited by sunday, 10 October 2015 - 0551 AM.

[RETAC21]

Paddlewheel carriers now!!
 

[Marek Tucan]

Was there really a need for so many paper designs?

Well, kinda there was... For both trees, development was kinda interrupted by various events. And Hipster would not really be up to Tier X even in the most vivid Axis dreams
 

[RETAC21]

A heavy tier X cruiser would be Scharnhorst.

[Marek Tucan]

Not really, not fitting at all both its counterparts and both its role. Would be like sticking Atlanta as top tier DD Even worse, as after all Scharnhorst was called battlecruiser only by Brits and they wanted to call KGV the same initially before they found that the rest of the world uses "fast battleship"

 

Plus than you would need paper stuff for battleships tree. It would be far better prograssion from Twins (with 38cm) to Bismarck style thingies. Having as top tier cruiser something with 28cm guns and battleship grade armor would simply not float, both from the balance view and from the logical progression.

[RETAC21]

Yeah, up to a poiny but tier X should show some national character and the Germans were all for survivability at the orice of firepower.

[Colin]

i actually don't envy them trying to match up tiers and classes and then attempt to balance it.