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#4121 Panzermann

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 1148 AM

more dakka in Iran:

 

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both from great prophet 12 exercise drill od IRGC

 

 

 

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the Shah really bought anything that looked cool, didn't he?


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Posted 15 March 2019 - 2107 PM

A BH7 and and SR.N6.

 

Wikipedia's very short article on the BH7 needs to be updated, it seems.


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Posted 20 March 2019 - 1539 PM

A BH7 and and SR.N6.

 

Wikipedia's very short article on the BH7 needs to be updated, it seems.

 

Hovercrafts are not in service with the UK (RN? Royal Marines?) anymore, I think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

We do not need these newfangled cartridge smokless powder things. The gentleman of taste carries a double barrel blackpowder derringer with inline caps!

 

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http://www.czechguns...d1-professional

 

 

I guess this is to circumvent some czech law?


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 0658 AM


A BH7 and and SR.N6.
 
Wikipedia's very short article on the BH7 needs to be updated, it seems.

 
Hovercrafts are not in service with the UK (RN? Royal Marines?) anymore, I think?

A handful of small hovercraft/LCAC(L) are in service with 539 Assault Squadron.
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#4125 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 0747 AM

If anyone gets 'The Armourer' magazine, there is an interesting spread on a US weapon in service in the phillipines in 1946, an apparent assault rifle, called a model 45. It looks from the photo's vaguely like a Steyr Aug, and built up from discarded Thompson bits. Anyone heard of it?


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Posted 22 March 2019 - 0058 AM

more dakka in Iran:

 

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both from great prophet 12 exercise drill od IRGC

 

 

 

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the Shah really bought anything that looked cool, didn't he?

We had to get very creative to rebuild out SRN 6's as all the Jigs had gone to Iran and they refused to return them. The craft splits into 3 sections apparently to fit into a C130. The main Cabin structure is a Aluminum box structure with steel braces with about 6-8" of foam adhered to the metal. Our were rotting away, we had to make a jig, disassemble the craft turn the cabin onto it's side, remove all of the foam, replace rotted metal, new foam and them a layer of fiberglass cloth and resin. They lasted another 6 years.


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Posted 22 March 2019 - 2208 PM

If anyone gets 'The Armourer' magazine, there is an interesting spread on a US weapon in service in the phillipines in 1946, an apparent assault rifle, called a model 45. It looks from the photo's vaguely like a Steyr Aug, and built up from discarded Thompson bits. Anyone heard of it?

 

This?

https://www.rockisla...hine-gun-45-acp


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Posted 23 March 2019 - 0513 AM

No, this one:

https://www.forgotte...m/us-model-45a/


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Posted 23 March 2019 - 0657 AM

If only there were an example for Ian to do a video on...


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Posted 23 March 2019 - 1403 PM

 

A BH7 and and SR.N6.

 

Wikipedia's very short article on the BH7 needs to be updated, it seems.

 

Hovercrafts are not in service with the UK (RN? Royal Marines?) anymore, I think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

We do not need these newfangled cartridge smokless powder things. The gentleman of taste carries a double barrel blackpowder derringer with inline caps!

 

gladiator_d2_popis.jpg

 

http://www.czechguns...d1-professional

 

 

I guess this is to circumvent some czech law?

 

 

Or some US law. In some states at least, front loading blackpowder weapons are not considered firearms for the purpose of a felony prohibition. Therefore, someone with a felony on their rap sheet can still own and in some cases carry them. This chap for example.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=1K-vpokw0gU


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Posted 23 March 2019 - 1737 PM

Not considered firearms at all. We can buy them without any checks or restrictions.
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Posted 23 March 2019 - 1955 PM

Anything made before 1899 isn't considered a firearm, and can be purchased by and shipped directly to anybody. I was in a Scheel's in Montana a few years ago and they had a number of Trapdoor Springfields for about $600/each. I really wanted one, but Utah doesn't share a border with MT which makes interstate firearms purchases iffy. I had also forgotten my FFL 03 license, which hasn't happened since, I keep copies of it on my person and .pdf files on my laptop, phone and tablet now. I was already back in WY on my way home before I remembered that pre-1899 guns aren't regulated. I've never found a trapdoor for as good a price since, and I've been looking for Trapdoors and / or Krags since.


Edited by GregShaw, 23 March 2019 - 1957 PM.

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 0403 AM

Same here for needle-fired or single-shot percussion cap models developed before 1871 (including multi-shot types converted to single-shot). You need a license to buy the powder, though. Regardless of those details, the gun in question would however certainly not be covered, being a modern-developed type.


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Posted 24 March 2019 - 0911 AM

Same here for needle-fired or single-shot percussion cap models developed before 1871 (including multi-shot types converted to single-shot). You need a license to buy the powder, though. Regardless of those details, the gun in question would however certainly not be covered, being a modern-developed type.

 

To be exact, black powder falls under explosives regulations.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:48 AM

Here, as you would expect, it's a bit weird.

No licence is required to own any firearm fitting the following criteria:

Pre September 1939 actual manufacture date, and

Muzzle loading, or

Obsolete ignition system, or,

Chambered for a cartridge on the Home Office obsolete calibre list.

This includes machine guns, so if you can find a Maxim in .45 Siamese Mauser. You can just go out and buy it. However...

If you intend to shoot the firearm, even with blanks, it needs to go on a shotgun or firearms cert.

Also, if you end up out in the street waving your Colt London BP revolver about, it will be treated as a firearm under the law, so good luck with that.

Blackpowder is covered by its own legislation dating from the 19th century, requiring its own licence. You have to keep it in a wooden box due to, I believe, the possibility of ignition by static electricity.
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Posted Yesterday, 03:00 AM

 

Thats the one.

 

They are asking for requests for information, so if anyone does know anymore, it might be worth telling them. It does seem to be a black hole though, with no surviving copies. Presumably it was locally developed and trialed and nobody showed any interest for whatever reason.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:47 PM

Here, as you would expect, it's a bit weird.


We used to have a similar legislation.

Muzzle loaders or any black powder weapons whose design predated 1890 and were build before 1945 could be purchased freely, as well as any firearm manufactured before 1895.
Powder and ammo was regulated though.

This was all annuled in 2015 (after investigation into the 2011 Liège terror attack revealed a florishing trade in some of the more "modern" weapons that were included in those definitions, like early Mausers, with apparent criminal end-use in mind).

Since then, all firearms require a license of some sort (although Belgian firearm legislation remains quite liberal compared to UK; pistols, semi-auto rifles etc. can all be acquired, only limit being caliber which must be below .50)
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Posted Yesterday, 10:10 PM

For US legality as Firearms or not, it's not that it may use black powder or not. It's that it doesn't use fixed cartridges.

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Posted Today, 01:58 AM

For US legality as Firearms or not, it's not that it may use black powder or not. It's that it doesn't use fixed cartridges.

 

AFAIk in some areas the firearms useable for hunting are also restricted in some way. Hence you have all those scoped pistols, becasue only pistols are allowed. Or various straight walles cartridges because those are allowed. Or modern muzzle loaders using normal nitro powders, becasue only muzzle loaders are allowed.  So of course people build around the laws.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I feel so much safer with a lock on the gun. :wacko:


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