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#1061 Markus Becker

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Posted 10 April 2019 - 1837 PM

Almost forgot this because it's really not news. :D


Of course it's no surprise. The German media predicted his downfall, thus ensuring his victory. ... All right, all right. They have no supernatural powers, they are just clueless. Coalition partners? What's that?
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Posted 12 April 2019 - 1347 PM

Leftists in the European Parliament have of course criticized the decision as a softball compromise; but the Socialists & Democrats in particular, who so far have deflected counterattacks over their own corrupt Eastern European authoritarians in the guise of the Romanian Social Democrats by pointing to public criticism of the latter by their Dutch member Frans Timmermans, EU Commissioner for the Rule of Law etc., will now have to answer questions why they don't do at least the same.

 

The S & D have now suspended membership of the Romanian PSD.


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Posted 12 April 2019 - 1642 PM

Long overdue.

But better late than never.


Edited by Ssnake, 12 April 2019 - 1642 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 1724 PM

Finnish Social Democrats squeeze narrowly in front before far-right Finns Party.

 

Finland election: Right-wing Finns Party surges in poll

 
1 hour ago
 

A centre-left party has declared victory in Finland's parliamentary election, while an anti-immigration right-wing party soared into second.

 

With over 97% of ballots counted, the Social Democrats took 17.8% of the vote, with the Finns Party on 17.6%.

 

Social Democrats leader Antti Rinne has declared himself the winner.

 

The centre-right National Coalition is slightly behind the Finns Party while ex-PM Juha Sipila's Centre Party has seen its support plummet.

 

The Social Democrats are now the largest party for the first time since 1999.

 

Voter turnout was 72%.

 

The Social Democrats have won 40 seats in the 200-seat parliament, one more than the Finns Party, and coalition-building lies ahead.

 

Before the election, the Finns Party had 17 seats.

 

How did we get here?
 

Last month, Mr Sipila's government resigned over its failure to achieve a key policy goal on social welfare and healthcare reform. His Centre Party had been in a centre-right coalition government since the last parliamentary elections in 2015.

 

Concerned about Finland's expensive welfare system in the face of an ageing population, Mr Sipila made tackling the nation's debt one of his government's main aims, introducing planning reforms he hoped would save up to €3bn (£2.6bn; $3.4bn) over a decade.

 

But while the introduction of austerity measures - such as benefits cuts and pension freezes - resulted in Finland reducing its government debt for the first time in a decade last year, the reforms proved politically controversial.

 

Meanwhile, the Social Democratic Party, a centre-left party with strong links to Finland's trade unions, saw its popularity grow.

 

[...]

 

https://www.bbc.com/...europe-47893264


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 0914 AM

When people say that democracy cannot be gained and maintained without sacrifice, they probably don't think of it like this.

 

April 28, 2019 / 8:11 AM / Updated 7 hours ago

 
More than 270 died from overwork-related illnesses in Indonesia elections
 
JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ten days after Indonesia held the world’s biggest single-day elections, more than 270 election staff have died, mostly of fatigue-related illnesses caused by long hours of work counting millions of ballot papers by hand, an official said on Sunday.
 

The April 17 elections were the first time the country of 260 million people combined the presidential vote with national and regional parliamentary ones, with an aim to cut costs.

 

Voting was largely peaceful and was estimated to have drawn 80 percent of the total 193 million voters, who each had to punch up to five ballot papers in over 800,000 polling stations.

 

But conducting the eight-hour vote in a country that stretches more than 5,000 km (3,000 miles) from its western to eastern tips proven to be both a Herculean logistical feat and deadly for officials, who had to count ballot papers by hand.

 

As of Saturday night, 272 election officials had died, mostly from overwork-related illnesses, while 1,878 others had fallen ill, said Arief Priyo Susanto, spokesman of the General Elections Commission (KPU).

 

The Health Ministry issued a circular letter on April 23 urging health facilities to give utmost care for sick election staff, while the Finance Ministry is working on compensation for families of the deceased, Susanto added.

 

The KPU has come under fire due to the rising death toll.

 

“The KPU is not prudent in managing the workload of staff,” said Ahmad Muzani, deputy chairman of the campaign of opposition presidential candidate Prabowo Subianto, reported by news website Kumparan.com.

 

Prabowo, who independent pollsters said was the loser of the 2019 polls based on quick counts, had alleged widespread cheating and his campaign claimed some officials punched ballots in favor of incumbent President Joko Widodo. Widodo’s security minister said the allegations were baseless.

 

Both candidates have declared victory, though quick counts suggested Widodo won the election by around 9-10 percentage points.

 

The KPU will conclude vote counting and announce winners of the presidential and parliamentary elections on May 22.

 

https://www.reuters....s-idUSKCN1S403N

 

Meanwhile, BOLO for Spanish election results tonight.

 

Deeply divided, Spaniards vote with eye on far-right’s rise

 
By ARITZ PARRA 2 hours ago

MADRID (AP) — A divided Spain voted Sunday in its third general election in four years, with all eyes on whether a far-right party will enter Parliament for the first time in decades and potentially help unseat the Socialist government.

 

The incumbent prime minister, Pedro Sánchez, is set to win the most votes, but his Socialists seem far from scoring a majority in parliament to form a government on their own.

 

The fragmentation of the political landscape is the result of austerity that followed a recession, disenchantment with bipartisan politics and the recent rise of far-right populism.

 

Sánchez called Sunday’s ballot after a national budget proposal was rejected in the Lower Chamber by the center-right-conservative opposition and Catalan separatists pressing for self-determination in their northeastern region.

 

Polls a week ago found that about one third of the nearly 37 million eligible voters hadn’t decided how they would vote. Their decision, and the expected high turnout, could swing the result between the left and right wing blocs that have taken shape during the electoral race.

 

The anti-austerity Unidas Podemos (United We Can) party, has offered to enter a coalition with the Socialists, but they might need to rely on smaller parties, including the Catalan separatists.

 

On the splintered right, three parties are competing for leadership: the once-dominant conservative Popular Party (PP), the center-right Citizens, and the nationalist and anti-migrant Vox party, which looks set to enter the lower house of Parliament for the first time. Its arrival would mark a big shift in Spain, where the far right has not played a significant role since the country’s transition to democracy following the death of dictator Gen. Francisco Franco in 1975.

 

Voting stations opened at 9 a.m. (0700GMT) Sunday and will close at 8 p.m. (1800GMT), with results expected a few hours later.

 

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https://www.apnews.c...6da9045d66c4df5


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 1050 AM

Seems Mr. Parra forgot to mention the effect on voters of the prospect of having a secession in our time.

 

Popular Party is center-right, Ciudadanos is center-left, and Vox is right.

 

No Spanish far right party, defined as racist, anti-EU, and anti-freedom of religion, is entering Parliament in today's elections. However, there is a far-left party, Podemos, that has been financed by the Iranian government, and by Venezuelan Chavistas.


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 1846 PM

General election happen in Spain, and socialists (PSOE) could form a government with center-left Ciudadanos. Also with sundry Far Left, and Separatist, parties.

I foresee interesting times for Spain.


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Posted 29 April 2019 - 0938 AM

No Spanish far right party, defined as racist, anti-EU, and anti-freedom of religion, is entering Parliament in today's elections.

The German MSM still call them (right wing) populist, ultra right and even right wing extremists.

German MSM, as honest as politicians.:)

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 1045 AM

Another early warning notice: Austria may have snap elections after vice chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache, head of the right-wing FPÖ, stepped down today, following publication of a video by German print media "Spiegel" and "Süddeutsche Zeitung" yesterday showing him in an apparent setup on Ibiza in 2017, before the election that brought the current ÖVP-FPÖ coalition to power.

 

In this, Strache can be seen in a party setting along with now-FPÖ parliamentary leader Johann Gudenus, talking over the course of seven hours to a woman claiming to be a Russian oligarch's niece who is interested in taking over Austria's biggest daily paper, the "Neue Kronen Zeitung". He offers her to award public construction projects to a company she would found, in return for her using the paper to push the party to electoral victory.

 

Chancellor Sebastian Kurz accepted Strache's resignation, but is rumored to also want getting rid of controversial FPÖ interior minister Herbert Kickl and return the ministry to ÖVP control while the opportunity presents itself. The FPÖ would reportedly rather quit the coalition, though. A statement by Kurz has been postponed several times and has now been set for 1945 local time. A statement by President Alexander Van der Bellen has been announced for 2035, fueling speculation that Kurz has asked him to disband parliament and call new elections.


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Posted 18 May 2019 - 1124 AM

The video is from 2017? Will there be a special council investigating this attempt to manipulate the upcoming EU elections. ;)
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 1535 PM

Austrian snap elections called!

Mit Kurz für den sieg!

 

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 0258 AM

The video is from 2017? Will there be a special council investigating this attempt to manipulate the upcoming EU elections. ;)

 

The "Russian collusion" jokes do indeed write themselves on this, both for the FPÖ and whoever entrapped Strache. I wouldn't be surprised if [comedian] Jan Böhmermann jumped out next week and revealed he set this up; he has been making allusions for the last weeks before the video was actually published, and carefully created controversy by lashing out at Austrians and their government in local media recently. He certainly needs another splash after the Varoufakis finger fake and the Erdogan poem epos.

 

Only I think he wouldn't wait nearly two years to let the bomb blow, even if it meant the chance to torpedo the current push for European conservative-far right cooperation by Orban et al. That would require some prescience or very careful political prediction, and is straying into professional election manipulation territory. Somebody lured Strache into the elaborately prepared location and talk (even the triumphalist "Spiegel" coverage notes this), then sat on the video until the European campaign rolled around.

 

That it was published just ten days before the election, two days before Strache was to appear at a Milano meeting with Italian Lega leader Matteo Salvini, Marine Le Pen, AfD co-head Jörg Meuthen and others to celebrate their right-wing alliance for the European Parliament was of course the choice of the media which it was given too and worked over a period to confirm the story. I'll be very curious to learn who is behind this, if we ever do.

 

Meanwhile, Australia.

 

2019 Australia election: Morrison's coalition seeking shock majority

 
3 hours ago
 

Final results are being counted in Australia where Prime Minister Scott Morrison hopes his victory in Saturday's election will give him a majority government.

 

His conservative coalition has defied the polls and now needs to win three more seats to seal a shock majority.

 

"I have always believed in miracles," Mr Morrison told supporters in his victory speech on Saturday night.

 

Exit polls had predicted a Labor Party win for the first time in six years.

 

But Labor leader Bill Shorten resigned in the wake of his party's surprise defeat. "It is obvious that Labor will not be able to form the next government," he told party members.

 

He will not seek re-election as his party's leader.

 

The final result may not be known for some hours, but with more than 75% of votes counted the Liberal-National Coalition has won, or is ahead in, 73 seats in its quest for a 76-seat majority, with Labor trailing on 65 seats.

 

If the Coalition fails to win an outright majority it will need the help of independent MPs to govern.

 

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https://www.bbc.com/...tralia-48324896


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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1050 AM

a take from down under:

 

https://www.9news.co...c4-20a9033f79ff

 

As Scott Morrison charged to victory yesterday, seemingly defying all odds, Australians were left scratching their heads about how the polls could have got it so wrong.
 
In the past two years leading up to last night’s election, the Coalition did not win a single Newspoll.
 
Even as late as Friday night, Newspoll, YouGov/Galaxy, Ipsos and ReachTEL polls had Labor ahead 51-49 on the two-party preferred vote.
 
Although traditionally more accurate, the exit polls were also disastrously wrong, with Nine’s YouGov Galaxy Exit Poll pointing to a decisive ALP victory with a swing away from the government of 2.4 per cent.
 
But, while the public remained in the dark about the election bombshell that lay ahead, there are growing suggestions that both Bill Shorten and Scott Morrison were taken far less by surprise.
 
Speaking this morning on the ABC’s Insiders program, columnist Nikki Savva said internal polling done by both Labor and the Coalition showed very different results to the public polls.
 
...
 
“The published polls were certainly very different from the internal polling the Liberal Party were doing … it was picking up big swings in Queensland,” she said.
 
ABC journalist Patricia Karvelas agreed. “They could see what was happening. It just wasn’t being reflected in the public polls,” she said.
 
...
 
Tasmanian election analyst Kevin Bonham wrote on Saturday night that the polling failures were different to Donald Trump’s 2016 election win, where the national polls were correct but there were serious local errors.
“This is a national total polling failure more similar to Brexit or to recent UK national elections,” he said.
“Betting markets failed as well – initially expecting Labor to win by more than Labor’s leads at the time showed.”
 
...
 
Treasurer Josh Frydenberg says the polling fail follows a global trend.
 
“Pollsters got it wrong with Brexit, they got it wrong with Trump, and now they’ve got it wrong at the federal election here in Australia,” he told ABC Radio on Sunday.
Greens leader Richard Di Natale said it was time for a change.
 
“What it does show is that the era of opinion polls I think is over. They can’t be trusted,” he said.
 

 

 
I think the media biased their own polls and picked those that suited them.

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1236 PM


In the US at least, there's a theory that general-purpose civilians will tell pollsters what they want to hear, to avoid the possibility of adverse consequences from the blackshirts.

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Is it safe to assume that the Ozzie election was thrown by Putin?
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1241 PM

In the US at least, there's a theory that general-purpose civilians will tell pollsters what they want to hear, to avoid the possibility of adverse consequences from the blackshirts.

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Is it safe to assume that the Ozzie election was thrown by Putin?

 

Of course. Putin needs some kangaroo steaks to feed his tigers.  ^_^


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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1250 PM

Austrian snap elections called!

Mit Kurz für den sieg!

 

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What do you expect as results? As decisive as in the UK?

 

 

 

Meanwhile Austrian newspaper Der Standard gives advice on avoiding cameras at your AirBnB host: https://derstandard....in-ihrem-Airbnb

 

 

Makes me wonder why they published that? :lol:


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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1303 PM

Media bias may be responsible for some of the Australian survey results, but for example my impression of YouGov from a European context is that they tend to overemphasize popular-to-populist moods. It looks like pollsters were wrong regardless of possible political background here, not for the first time; this typically happens when lots of prior undecided/non-voters decide to participate, often close to the election. The remarkable thing is that even exit polls seem to have been off.

 

Back from Australia to Austria - and I've already seen people mixing both up again, blaming the Strache sting on the US Deep State™ via the Five Eyes. :D I have to say the technique of video entrapment coupled with the equivalent of an October surprise before the European elections does indeed have a distinct American vibe to it. Strache himself as well as Chancellor Kurz have brought up Tal Silberstein, technically an Israeli but one of the flying squad of international election advisors immortalized in the 2005 documentary "Our Brand is Crisis" (and the damn funny 2015 fictionalization of the same name).

 

Back at the time when the video was taken in 2017, Silberstein was working for the Austrian Social Democrats with his special talent for negative campaigning. In particular, he came up with two Facebook sites dealing with conservative contender and now-chancellor Kurz. One was made up as an account linked to the right-wing FPÖ, depicting Kurz as immigration-friendly, a proxy of Angela Merkel, George Soros, etc.; the other was made to look like right-wing, too, but lauding Kurz for anti-immigration statements, suitably taken out of context and sharpened. The aim apparently being to deter centrist voters to go with him or the FPÖ.

 

The thing blew up when Silberstein was arrested in Israel on unrelated charges of bribery, forgery and money laundering, and internal documents about his Austrian employment were disclosed. In the event, the scandal contributed considerably to the Social Democrats losing the election and the ÖVP-FPÖ coalition coming to power. Of course not much imagination is needed to suggest that the video is a leftover from those activities, and possibly a late revenge for how things went then.


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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1423 PM

It looks like pollsters were wrong regardless of possible political background here, not for the first time; this typically happens when lots of prior undecided/non-voters decide to participate, often close to the election.


Voting in Australia is mandatory - you are fined if you dont vote. So, while this may be the norm in democracies where participation is optional, its not really applicable here.
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1429 PM

D'uh. I had even read that in some report on the election.
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 1523 PM

The thing blew up when Silberstein was arrested in Israel on unrelated charges of bribery, forgery and money laundering, and internal documents about his Austrian employment were disclosed. In the event, the scandal contributed considerably to the Social Democrats losing the election and the ÖVP-FPÖ coalition coming to power. Of course not much imagination is needed to suggest that the video is a leftover from those activities, and possibly a late revenge for how things went then.


No worries, with those bona fides he has a bright future working for the DNC.  :lol:


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