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#61 BansheeOne

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 0941 AM

It happens during ACM training. Five years ago a civilian contractor Learjet crashed after touching a Eurofighter during a "renegade" aircraft exercise. The right-seat pilot had lost sight of the fighter it had been ordered to follow as he banked right and asked the one in the left seat to take over - who was however distracted by a mission-related computer in his lap. Both died in the crash; the fighter made it back with damage to its outboard stations.

Search ongoing for the second pilot. The third reported two chutes, so he's likely alive; not the easiest terrain there though, lots of lakes and woods. Aircraft were unarmed.
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Posted 24 June 2019 - 0952 AM

Its the cost of doing business sadly. If you dont get incidents like this occasionally, the likelihood is they are undertrained. So at least they were really trying to mix it.


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Posted 24 June 2019 - 0955 AM

Search ongoing for the second pilot. The third reported two chutes, so he's likely alive; not the easiest terrain there though, lots of lakes and woods.


Or unfortunately maybe not, since body parts have reportedly been found near one of the crash sites, which sounds really bad.
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Posted 24 June 2019 - 1100 AM

 

Search ongoing for the second pilot. The third reported two chutes, so he's likely alive; not the easiest terrain there though, lots of lakes and woods.


Or unfortunately maybe not, since body parts have reportedly been found near one of the crash sites, which sounds really bad.

 

 

The Luftwaffe confirms the death on its Twitter channel: https://twitter.com/...179405986029568

 

The Luftwaffe website only reports the crash so far: https://www.luftwaff...H70QSU07N8410A2


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Posted 24 June 2019 - 1136 AM

Yeah, shit. Which happens, of course.


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 0840 AM

Surviving pilot remains hospitalized in stable condition. Stated to be a 51-year-old LTC and one of the Luftwaffe's most experienced instructors with 3,500 flight hours, including 1,900 on Eurofighter. By contrast, the deceased was a 27-year-old 1LT fresh out of basic Eurofighter training with a mere 100 hours on the type. FDRs have not yet been recovered. One piece of wreckage missed a kindergarten playground by 40 meters, which obviously caused a bit of a scare.

The usual political carpetbaggers are suggesting the crash was caused by the Bundeswehr's general availability problems, demanding to stop military training flights in the area, or completely while we're at it.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 0843 AM

Surviving pilot remains hospitalized in stable condition. Stated to be a 51-year-old LTC and one of the Luftwaffe's most experienced instructors with 3,500 flight hours, including 1,900 on Eurofighter. By contrast, the deceased was a 27-year-old 1LT fresh out of basic Eurofighter training with a mere 100 hours on the type. FDRs have not yet been recovered. One piece of wreckage missed a kindergarten playground by 40 meters, which obviously caused a bit of a scare.

The usual political carpetbaggers are suggesting the crash was caused by the Bundeswehr's general availability problems, demanding to stop military training flights in the area, or completely while we're at it.

 

:wacko: if it was so unavaibale, then there would not have been a flight in the first place.  :rolleyes:


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 0903 AM

Local news stated deceased pilot trained in Spain with Ala 11.


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 0926 AM

Yeah, he had just been assigned to Tactical Wing 73 "Steinhoff" in Rostock-Laage. Operations there are currently suspended, but it's likely not going to turn out having been a technical problem (reliability would probably have been a better term than availabilty for suggestions going that way).
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Posted 26 June 2019 - 0642 AM

 

Surviving pilot remains hospitalized in stable condition. Stated to be a 51-year-old LTC and one of the Luftwaffe's most experienced instructors with 3,500 flight hours, including 1,900 on Eurofighter. By contrast, the deceased was a 27-year-old 1LT fresh out of basic Eurofighter training with a mere 100 hours on the type. FDRs have not yet been recovered. One piece of wreckage missed a kindergarten playground by 40 meters, which obviously caused a bit of a scare.

The usual political carpetbaggers are suggesting the crash was caused by the Bundeswehr's general availability problems, demanding to stop military training flights in the area, or completely while we're at it.

 
:wacko: if it was so unavaibale, then there would not have been a flight in the first place.  :rolleyes:

 

 
The mayoe of Waren an der Müritz(where the planes crashed) has suggested to do away withflight operations entirely, because they are dangerous. I guess what he really meant is, that the tourists do not like the noise as Waren is living mostly off of tourism, because it is rather remote. Which is the reason the flight training is being done there in the first place. And really, the Eurofighter is comparably silent. they should hear a F-4 going low and fast...


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Posted 26 June 2019 - 0707 AM

Some of us remember the esteemed and ear buggering Starfighter. When they talked about the Sound of Freedom, they really believed in getting max value out of the decibels. :D


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Posted 26 June 2019 - 0843 AM

Looking at the title of this thread — does this accident mean there are now only TWO Eurofighters combat ready?


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Posted 30 June 2019 - 0351 AM

General, Flight Safety has preliminarily ruled the cause of accident to be pilot error and cleared the Eurofighter fleet to resume operations. A 3D model of the crash is going to be made based upon the data of flight recorders and computer systems. It might be that the killed pilot's ejection seat was automatically triggered but couldn't save him due to the collision, which would explain why the third pilot reported two parachutes, but "body parts" were found at the crash site.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 0849 AM

Sounds like the cockpit was bifurcated. Nasty, but at least the poor bugger didnt know what hit him.


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 1213 PM

And since misery loves company, another Bundeswehr pilot was killed yesterday and her crewmate injured when an EC 135 from Army Aviation School (or International Helicopter Training Center, as it's called these days) in Bückeburg crashed during low-level training near Hameln, Lower Saxony. Both were 2LTs aged 25 and 26 respectively, with a total of 450 hours (including 170 simulated) each and fast-tracked to become First Assignment Instructor Pilots due to their demonstrated competence.

 

Both incidents are the first deadly crashes with the respective type in Bundeswehr service.


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 1833 PM

My condolences. Sad to see promising officers go.


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