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#381 Josh

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 1428 PM

Didn't the IDF buy some V-22?

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 2157 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like it. The current mid-term defense plan (2014-2018) calls for 17 Ospreys to be procured. 5 were payed for in 2015, 4 in 2016, another 4 in 2017, and the remaining 4 are in the defense budget request for 2018. I recall some interest from Israel but just that.

 

 

I don't understand buying such small numbers. Just losing one aircraft would be a huge loss to their fleet.  



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 2243 PM

Looks like it. The current mid-term defense plan (2014-2018) calls for 17 Ospreys to be procured. 5 were payed for in 2015, 4 in 2016, another 4 in 2017, and the remaining 4 are in the defense budget request for 2018. I recall some interest from Israel but just that.

 
I don't understand buying such small numbers. Just losing one aircraft would be a huge loss to their fleet.

Cost and limited budget is probably the reason. Politics could be another since the Osprey gets targeted a lot by the many media outlets. I would like to see more Ospreys. Double 17 to 34 would be nice. Maybe more will be required in the next mid-term plan. It'll be interesting if the Ospreys really do get painted with pattern we currently see since that would indicate a specific role for small scale rapid response to Japan's outer islands despite the fact that the Ospreys will be going to the JGSDF which use the green and brown camo. Japan will still maintain many helicopters for lift and there were studies into a medium helicopter that would be a Huey replacement.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 0654 AM

The MOD was likely divided on the safety and utility of the MV22 when the purchase was approved. A limited purchase allows Japan Inc access to the technology and a cadre of operators to be developed in the meantime.



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Posted 01 September 2017 - 1120 AM

What will they use them for? Will they be embarked on ships?

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 2054 PM

Officially yes to the plan to operate them from the navy's helo carriers, but I suspect special operations may be the real usage.



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Posted 02 September 2017 - 0952 AM

2018 defense budget request is 5.2551 trillion yen (about 45 billion USD, exchange rate on the budget request is 110 yen = 1 USD). But of the includes the cost of realignment of US forces, SACO, and government aircraft. That amount minus these things is 5.0219 trillion yen, (so still about 45 billion USD).

 

The following graphs show the defense budget minus said costs over the years and the percent change increase. 2018's defense budget request marks the highest change in increase on the data graphs. Typically something gets cut upon approval, but usually a very tiny amount gets cut.

 

This is the amount of the defense budget over the years:

dbchange01.jpg

30 = 2018

29 = 2017

28 = 2016

27 = 2015

26 = 2014

etc.

 

Percent change (triangle indicates a decrease) from the previous year. 2018 with 2.5% increase is the highest.

dbchange02.jpg

 

The defense budget request:

http://www.mod.go.jp...2018/gaisan.pdf


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 1201 PM

Officially yes to the plan to operate them from the navy's helo carriers, but I suspect special operations may be the real usage.

You mean.... Ninjas? :ninja:



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Posted 03 September 2017 - 1353 PM

 

Officially yes to the plan to operate them from the navy's helo carriers, but I suspect special operations may be the real usage.

You mean.... Ninjas? :ninja:

 

 



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 0220 AM

Ooh, not seen that one. Must watch that.

 

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 1114 AM

29th test flight.

 

Any idea what the orange thing is? Camera? Fire extinguisher? Dummy weight?

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 1145 AM

29th test flight.

 
Any idea what the orange thing is? Camera? Fire extinguisher? Dummy weight?
orangething.jpg


A small drogue chute, to stabilize the aircraft, in case it stalls.
Fairly common in early test-flights, when one opens up the flight envelope.

Here a SAAB Gripen with one, during stall tests over lake Vättern:

http://www.flygplan....ipen_svart1.jpg

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 1902 PM

 

29th test flight.

 
Any idea what the orange thing is? Camera? Fire extinguisher? Dummy weight?
orangething.jpg


A small drogue chute, to stabilize the aircraft, in case it stalls.
Fairly common in early test-flights, when one opens up the flight envelope.

Here a SAAB Gripen with one, during stall tests over lake Vättern:

http://www.flygplan....ipen_svart1.jpg

 

 

unrecoverable spins, not stall.  Stall is caused by too slow a speed to maintain the lift required for flying.  A drag chute in this case would be counterproductive.



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 0405 AM

I think you're both right. Typically the chute is fitted when expanding the flight envelope into the high alpha and low speed regimes. It enables a pilot to get the nose down to allow post stall recovery. Post stall behaviours include non recoverable spins.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 1140 AM

2nd of the Asahi-class "Shiranui" launched. Planned to be commissioned in March 2019.



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Posted 04 November 2017 - 0240 AM

The MoD is planning on deploying a space surveillance radar in Yamaguchi prefecture which would observe any obstructions to Japanese satellites such as space debris or Chinese anti-satellite weapons. It would be the first of this kind of radar for the JASDF. The information provided by the radar would allow the analysis department to determine countermeasures such as changing the satellite's orbit to evade danger. 4.4 billion yen was allocated in the FY 2018 budget request as "Space Surveillance System" with the aim of beginning operations in 2023.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 0947 AM

Pictures of the experimental model of an electronics warfare C-2 version. Came across the pictures from a Chinese blog yet I can't find any pictures of it on any Japanese webpages yet :ph34r:

https://4.bp.blogspo.../s1600/rc-2.jpg

https://www.weibo.co...nd1509890990537

 

To the pictures themselves:

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More in the spoiler:

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According to old reports like this one about the electronics warfare C-2, the aircraft itself with all the electronic related stuff installed was to be completed shortly before the end of 2017 with testing beginning in 2018.


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Posted 05 November 2017 - 1048 AM

32nd flight of the X-2. Might have been its last flight. There are rumors that the flight program has ended. Some speculate it finished prematurely since 32 flights seems too few. But maybe still enough information from it has been obtained. After all work with the new engine, the XF9-1, still continues. [Edit] or rather 34th take off and landing on Oct 31st  might have been the last.

 

Take off.

 

Landing.

 

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Edited by JasonJ, 05 November 2017 - 2028 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 2349 PM

Does this has anything with Kobe Steel faking qualification on materials it manufactured?  So X-2 may not be safe to fly due to this and too expensive to redo with proper materials, hence it got canceled?

 

 

32nd flight of the X-2. Might have been its last flight. There are rumors that the flight program has ended. Some speculate it finished prematurely since 32 flights seems too few. But maybe still enough information from it has been obtained. After all work with the new engine, the XF9-1, still continues. [Edit] or rather 34th take off and landing on Oct 31st  might have been the last.

 



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 0054 AM

Could be, the Kobe Steel scandal was bad news. But details, like anything, could be revealing. I'm reminded of the big hit Valvo took with faking CO2 emission levels. ISTR that part of the problem with that was that green gas laws became to strict for auto companies to operate competitively if obeying such regulations. Well at any rate, if the X-2 is made of bad steel, that would be bad for the program.




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