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#1 DB

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0518 AM

It verks!

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#2 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0526 AM

They had this on the local news last night, a company in Bristol seems to have been involved in the development work. Good news all round.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0620 AM

Those VLS look so cute.

 

How does it stack up vs the other naval SAMs (e.g., Standard, ESSM)


Edited by Corinthian, 05 September 2017 - 0621 AM.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0634 AM

It's supposed to be a competitor to ESSM or Aster-15 I think. The big selling point over the latter is that it can be quad packed into Silver or Mk. 41 VLS cells.

 

It represents a pretty big boost in performance over Sea Wolf for the Type 23's, with much longer range. I'm not sure if it's going into Type 45 as well but it would make a lot of sense given the design's relatively limited number of VLS cells.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0729 AM

The missile itself is common with the planned Rapier replacement. Thus a common munition pool. It also has a lot of commonality with ASRAAM block 6.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0733 AM

Those VLS look so cute.

 

How does it stack up vs the other naval SAMs (e.g., Standard, ESSM)

 

They should have called it 'Kitteh'.:)



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0752 AM

HMS Argyll has something new to show off when comes to visit next year in December.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0754 AM

Hmm, good point. I doubt that's a coincidence.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0820 AM

Check out the Daily Star article on the subject. I'm not linking it here, as the Star makes the Mail look like a quality paper.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0830 AM

Yeah, I was reading up on the proprietor the other day. An ex pornographer who put a lot of money into the Brexit campaign. I felt sullied just reading the Wiki article on him. :)

 

Any possibility they could fit this into an armoured vehicle, something like a modern Tracked Rapier? Stormer Starstreak is getting on in years after all.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 1914 PM

Sea Ceptor? Well, I guess it sounds better than "Airseeker".



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 0349 AM

Yeah, I was reading up on the proprietor the other day. An ex pornographer who put a lot of money into the Brexit campaign. I felt sullied just reading the Wiki article on him. :)

 

Any possibility they could fit this into an armoured vehicle, something like a modern Tracked Rapier? Stormer Starstreak is getting on in years after all.

 

when the armoured vehicle has space for a pallet:
 

 

CAMM(L) is the land-based variant and will replace the Rapier missile batteries of the British Army[12] from 2020 or so. Four three-pack launchers[23] are fitted to a self-contained "pallet" that can be fitted to a range of trucks.[28] The launch vehicle will not have its own radar, instead taking targeting information over a secure datalink as part of an integrated air-defence network[28] and using the active seeker head for terminal guidance. Some reports have called the land variant, "Land Ceptor".[29][30]

 

the brazilian marines are going to put their CAMM(L) on Astros lorries. according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia...rrent_operators

 

quite the export customer list so far: Brazl, Italy, Chile, New Zealand



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 0431 AM

Well thats ok, but I was thinking of something like an Alvis Streaker. I mean how can you provide close air defence of armoured forces in a vehicle that is going to be vulnerable even to a light mortar?



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 0650 AM

Well thats ok, but I was thinking of something like an Alvis Streaker. I mean how can you provide close air defence of armoured forces in a vehicle that is going to be vulnerable even to a light mortar?

 

CAMM(*) is more like medium range with more than 25 km range. ER is 45+.

 

I bet they delude themselves that with fewer launchers and more range they can achieve the same.



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 0714 AM

Yeah, that would sound about right.



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 0841 AM

better than what the Canadians have which is zip



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 1042 AM

It's supposed to be a competitor to ESSM or Aster-15 I think.

 

Let's add VL MICA.

 

http://www.mbda-syst...roduct/vl-mica/



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 1243 PM

Sea Ceptor? Well, I guess it sounds better than "Airseeker".

So '70s... :P

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 1332 PM

Stuart, with 25km range and non line of sight to launcher capability the launchers can be well out of mortar range. Close defence is still Starstreak's role, albeit with a vastly reduced number of systems than we originally purchased.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 0211 AM

Stuart, with 25km range and non line of sight to launcher capability the launchers can be well out of mortar range. Close defence is still Starstreak's role, albeit with a vastly reduced number of systems than we originally purchased.

 

Indeed, which is a goodly part of my concern.

 

What you are saying is, its like comparing Hawk to Stinger, 2 completely different roles. I can see that, im just reflecting on he view that Starstreak is aging, we dont have nearly enough systems to go round, and if anything various nations standoff capablity is improving. We really need to look at ADA in the British Armed forces root and branch, because we really seem to be taking the view there will aways be an airforce to put a roof on it.

 

A step in the right direction? No argument here. I presume we will also have the ability to net CAMM in with with Royal Navy systems which would be damn useful in the event of any Falklands style landing.






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