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#1 carrierlost

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0352 AM

Things have been heating up Azerbaijan and Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh over past weeks. Today large escalation have been reported with both sides blaming the other side. Tanks, aircraft and artillery has apparently been used. Armenia claims that the conflict has erupted over the whole length of border in Karabakh.
 
Armenia has claimed to have shot down Mi-24, which Azerbaijan denies.
As a background Armenia is backed by Russia and Azerbaijan is ethnically Turkic this has potential to escalate to a proxy war.
 
 

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#2 Roman Alymov

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0400 AM

 http://www.tank-net....39986&p=1235547

Both Armenia and Azerbaijan reporting clashes along all front line in Karabakh tonight - according to Arm side, it was Azeri army attempt to break through supported by Grad strikes and aviation (other side report opposite). Armenians claim enemy Hind down, lots of civilian casualties.

   It may be Baku leadership attempt to start "small victorious war" as oil prices drop turned Azerbaijan economic miracle into ruins (Aliev is currently in US AFAIK), or their main ally (Turkey) reminding Russia that if Turkey "relation normalization proposals" not taken, they may cause more problems to Russia away from Syria.


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#3 Roman Alymov

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0405 AM

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#4 JasonJ

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0449 AM

From Georgia to Ukraine to Syria and now Azerbaijan.

Strengthening military ties between Russia and Armenia. US does not recognize Nagorno-Karabakh as an independent state.

http://www.tank-net....56#entry1232592
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#5 Roman Alymov

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0458 AM

From Georgia to Ukraine to Syria and now Azerbaijan.

 

It was expected development

http://www.tank-net....33#entry1209441

"This time situation is much more complex – Azerbaijan would surely attack Armenia to use opportunity to return disputed territories wile Russia is busy, Iran would not be able to stay away, Russian forces will need land corridor to support Armenia   - meaning Georgia will be gone too, with Russian forces forming new land front against Turkey like century ago. Ukraine would surely jump into with their hope to grab something while Russia is in another war  -meaning Ukraine most likely will be gone too, and so on. It is local WW3, with high chances of growing into global and nuclear (after all İncirlik by some reports got nuclear storage)"


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0504 AM

From Georgia to Ukraine to Syria and now Azerbaijan.

It was expected development
http://www.tank-net....33#entry1209441
"This time situation is much more complex – Azerbaijan would surely attack Armenia to use opportunity to return disputed territories wile Russia is busy, Iran would not be able to stay away, Russian forces will need land corridor to support Armenia   - meaning Georgia will be gone too, with Russian forces forming new land front against Turkey like century ago. Ukraine would surely jump into with their hope to grab something while Russia is in another war  -meaning Ukraine most likely will be gone too, and so on. It is local WW3, with high chances of growing into global and nuclear (after all İncirlik by some reports got nuclear storage)"

Developments are always expected to those that are informed.
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#7 Roman Alymov

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0516 AM

Armenian president jet was allready in air (going from US back home) as conflict started, expected to arrive soon - so seems like both countries leaders where away....


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0517 AM

AZ army reinforcements moving in


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0522 AM

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Edited by AttilaA, 04 April 2016 - 1751 PM.

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#10 Roman Alymov

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0606 AM

Stepanakert today


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0716 AM

AZ drone shot down  photos on offcical Karabakh MoD website

http://nkrmil.am/mai...wsMore1241.html

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0814 AM

On another picture the deployed parachute is clearly visible. 

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0830 AM

Footage from Armenian tv.

 


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0850 AM

Google translate on Azerbaijani MOD statement regarding events. They report taking some ground around village of Talish and Seysulan

 

 

The latest information on the situation on the frontline

April 2, 2016

On the night of April 2 moqelərimiz and residential districts along the front during the day intensive fired by the enemy. As a result, there are casualties among the civilian population. 


This is to prevent damage, to ensure the safety of the civilian population by the command of the Armed Forces Agdere-Tartar-Aghdam and Khojavand, Fuzuli, it was decided to hold the response. 


As soon as the rapid reaction Armenian forces during the attack engineer for many years, in some areas of the front line of defense in terms of the consolidated first opened, a number of strategic height and settlements have been completely liberated from the enemy. 
Goranboy region and Naftalan elevations near the village of Talish, which could pose a threat, as well as Seysulan fully cleared of enemy forces unit. 


Horadiz in Fizuli region in order to protect the enemy threat, giving you the ability to control a large area of strategic importance, "Lele hill" was under the control of the so-called divisions in height. 
the height of the elevations on the defensive line, and the new measures are being implemented to strengthen, digging trenches and fortification works are new positions. 
the battles of Armenians in 6 tanks, 15 artillery and reinforced engineering structures were destroyed, including more than a hundred dead and wounded soldiers. 


12 soldiers of the Armed Forces was killed in the battles with the enemy. During the operation, involving air strikes on the positions of the Armenian Mi-24 helicopter of the enemy shot down by 1 and 1 antitank mine explosion out of order. 
Defense Ministry officials, relatives of soldiers who died in battles with the enemy and presents its condolences to the families and wish patience. 


Defense Minister battles the ability of the personnel involved in the battle, military experience and appreciated the morale. 
the Defense Ministry said that in case of repeated violations of the ceasefire agreement by the Armenian side is more severe and crushing blows to the enemy will be.

http://www.mod.gov.a...elumat_cebheson


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 0951 AM

Head of Collective Security Treaty Organization in talks with Armenians.

 

  Moscow. April 2nd. Interfax-AVN - CSTO Secretary General Nikolai Bordyuzha held talks with senior military and political leadership of Armenia.

"In particular, he had a conversation with Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan," - said CSTO press secretary Vladimir Zainetdinov
to "Interfax-AVN" on Saturday. He did not specify the details of the negotiations.
 
CSTO includes Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan. According to the Treaty on Collective Security of the CSTO it can be employed to ensure the safety of one of the members of the organization only if request is made.
 
Earlier Saturday V.Zaynetdinov annonced to  "Interfax-AVN" that the actions of Azerbaijan only exacerbate the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh. "Everything should be resolved through negotiations. Azeri actions in this case lead to an aggravation of the situation and the conflict.", - Said V.Zaynetdinov
 
He stressed that the CSTO Nikolai Bordyuzha and the management of the secretariat are in constant contact with the leadership of Armenia. "We received from the Ministry of Defence of the Republic all the detailed information about the armed conflict. Armed military solution to Nagorno Karabakh conflict does not exist." - V.Zaynetdinov said.
 
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http://www.militaryn...id=1&nid=408129


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 1018 AM

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 1108 AM

Armenian video


Looks like Hermes 450B.
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Posted 02 April 2016 - 1223 PM

Armenian video of burned out Mi-24

 


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 1625 PM

Developments are always expected to those that are informed.


Or to those informed who throw out a lot of vague predictions, some of which hit the mark in future ;) I mean Kharabakh is a known hot spot, so prediction of "There will be a conflict" is rather sure hit :)

EDIT: In any case, guess the main thin gere is the Sultan trying to twist the Russian tail by proxy. Not sure if it is the proper sublime wisdom worthy of Sultan though ;)

Edited by Marek Tucan , 02 April 2016 - 1641 PM.

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#20 Panzermann

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 1644 PM

Developments are always expected to those that are informed.

Or to those informed who throw out a lot of vague predictions, some of which hit the mark in future ;) I mean Kharabakh is a known hot spot, so prediction of "There will be a conflict" is rather sure hit :)

It was pretty much a cold war. Frozen conflict. Whatever you wanted to call it. Now it flared up again. It Was inevitable that the balloon goes up again sooner or later.


A sensible solution would have been that the UN rolls in and untangles the knot by exchanging the populations of both state's enclaves in the respective other's and be done with it. Nakhchivan against Karabakh. <_<
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