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#7101 Panzermann

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 1150 AM

a race against time is one of the calssic movie plots. Depends what they make of it. That his brother is in the other battallion is maybe laying it a bit thick.


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#7102 Stefan Fredriksson

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Posted 05 August 2019 - 0120 AM

But plot-wise: looking at the casualties in frontal assaults, and other, 1600 men "walking into an ambush" just seems strange.
Can we guess that there is/are other important person/s among the 1600?
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Posted 06 August 2019 - 1450 PM

Agree that it looks like Dunkirk in terms of style. A new British way of filmmaking war.


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#7104 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 0201 AM

Actually I thought Dunkirk was pretty good. You dont always have to watch heads exploding to have a realistic view of combat.

 

OTOH, 1917 does look desperately uninspiring. I hope they pull something out of the hat.


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 0348 AM

Dunkirk was fine as audiovisual experience, but as a war movie it felt like bunch of well-equipped re-enactors had their exploits filmed. It felt so small, little blood, sweat or dirt. Like they were on smallish beach with couple of ships and maybe hundred extras, and one aircraft making an attack or two. No craters, no bodies, no AAA...


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 0457 AM

I dont know if we watched the same movie. There is at least one scene where a guy gets blown to bits by a Stuka delivered bomb. As for blood, I think Hollywood have gone into a cull de sac of showing far too much of it. Since Saving Private Ryan they have been heading down that road, and ignoring interesting and relevant stories and compensating by showing a combat experience.

 

As for AAA, im not sure there was any, other than ship mounted. If there was a lack of realism, its that a spitfire is seen from the beach and they all cheered it. In reality the Army hated the RAF, because they couldnt see what they were really doing, stopping the Luftwaffe getting to Dunkirk. There was very little evident overhead coverage as I understand it. They were actually stopping RAF personnel getting on the ships at several points.

 

Is it as good as the 1958 version with John Mills? No. But its still a good film. I was struck by the fact you didn't see one German in the whole film. You didnt really need to either. I felt it did a really great job at showing the desperation and lack of hope of those on the beach. I feel it helped me understand much better what my Grandfather went through.

 

But hey, just my opinion.


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 1213 PM

I dont know if we watched the same movie. There is at least one scene where a guy gets blown to bits by a Stuka delivered bomb. As for blood, I think Hollywood have gone into a cull de sac of showing far too much of it. Since Saving Private Ryan they have been heading down that road, and ignoring interesting and relevant stories and compensating by showing a combat experience.

 

As for AAA, im not sure there was any, other than ship mounted. If there was a lack of realism, its that a spitfire is seen from the beach and they all cheered it. In reality the Army hated the RAF, because they couldnt see what they were really doing, stopping the Luftwaffe getting to Dunkirk. There was very little evident overhead coverage as I understand it. They were actually stopping RAF personnel getting on the ships at several points.

 

Is it as good as the 1958 version with John Mills? No. But its still a good film. I was struck by the fact you didn't see one German in the whole film. You didnt really need to either. I felt it did a really great job at showing the desperation and lack of hope of those on the beach. I feel it helped me understand much better what my Grandfather went through.

 

But hey, just my opinion.

 

While I mostly agree, Dunkirk felt like a disaster movie rather than a war movie, more like Escape from the Poseidon given the lack of context, but it works precisely because of that.


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#7108 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 1246 PM

Yes, that's an interesting comparison. I don't disagree fwiw.
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Posted 07 August 2019 - 1540 PM

The short Dunkirk scene in Atonement (2007) though is first class, even though there is not much action:


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 1229 PM

So. I never saw the original Lion King, and went to see the new one in cinema. Wasn't too shabby, and computer generated stuff you see onscreen is nothing less than mind-boggling, kept saying to myself (quietly) " *That* part must be live action, right?"

Read afterwards that story-wise much is missing from the new version. So now I am actually looking forward to seeing the original. :)
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Posted 14 August 2019 - 1243 PM

I've read the original animators are really unhappy Disney remade it. Accused Disney of selling out.
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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1743 PM

Italian production about a civil servant that will do anything before losing his for life job.

Some social criticism of the Italian public sector and of life in Norway.

Very hilarious.


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