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#141 shep854

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 1613 PM

Once the M1911 fans got out, and the mag issues resolved, the M9 developed a good reputation with the US military.
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Posted 29 January 2018 - 0847 AM

In the videos I've seen of troops training with the M17, I have yet so see any safety manipulation...


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1800 PM

With the M9 Berreta we were told that it did not have a safety, only a decocking  lever. Do not call it a safety. That was drilled into us. That was 30 years ago in the Coast Guard.

 

In the Coast Guard with the Berreata M9  we never put the safety on, (the safety that was NOT a safety it is a decocking lever) . We carried them ready to fire, first round double action.

 

When we were still carrying the Colt 1911 .45 we carried them with NO round in the chamber. We had to rack the slide to fire the first round.

 

I would bet troops are trained to carry the pistol with a round in the chamber with the safety or decocking lever off ready to fire. In the heat of the moment you don't want  added actions.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 1917 PM

That does seem to be the way many agencies trained their people; for those so trained, using the switch as a safety could indeed be risky.

If you train/practice regularly and consistently, safety manipulation becomes a reflexive action.  When I had a Beretta 92, the forward/down thumb sweep was natural as I gripped the pistol.  Had Beretta gone with a frame-mounted lever like its Taurus cousin, it would be even less an issue.

 

It so happens I shot both a Glock 19 and a P320 the other night.  Only 50 rds each was not really enough to get a good feel for the guns, but both triggers were fairly light and short.  I guess I'm a bit of a dinosaur, but I like a switch for triggers like that


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 0958 AM

That does seem to be the way many agencies trained their people; for those so trained, using the switch as a safety could indeed be risky.

If you train/practice regularly and consistently, safety manipulation becomes a reflexive action.  When I had a Beretta 92, the forward/down thumb sweep was natural as I gripped the pistol.  Had Beretta gone with a frame-mounted lever like its Taurus cousin, it would be even less an issue.

 

It so happens I shot both a Glock 19 and a P320 the other night.  Only 50 rds each was not really enough to get a good feel for the guns, but both triggers were fairly light and short.  I guess I'm a bit of a dinosaur, but I like a switch for triggers like that

 

fun trivia: originally the 92 has had a frame mounted safety from which the Taurus model is derived. But slide safeties were in fashion back then or something. Many pitsols had them.

 

 

 

in the 2019 budget the USMC wants money for buying MHS pistols:

 

http://www.secnav.na...es/PMC_Book.pdf
 

 

The Modular Handgun System will be purchased to replace the legacy M9, M9A1, M45A1, and M007 pistols with a more affordable and efficient pistol for maintenance. The MHS also provides modularity and greater shooter ergonomics over the current models which will allow for more accurate fire for military personnel of different sizes.

 

 

So will the rather fresh and new M007 Glocks be surplussed on the civ market? a James Bond Glock 19 would be kinda cool. :D


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1540 PM

True.  Taurus further developed the frame safety to include ambi levers and a decock function, which of course allows on-safe carry in both double- and single-action mode with no chance of activation when racking the slide.  This is why I prefer the Taurus cousin to the Beretta original.

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The Firearm Blog on USMC M17 acquisition:

http://www.thefirear...handgun-system/

So The Crotch is evidently getting out of the .45 game as well.


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Posted 25 March 2018 - 0750 AM

https://www.marineco...-newest-pistol/

 

Must be among first times USMC and Army agreed on anything.. :D


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 1122 AM

The Danish army follows suit : 

 

http://soldiersystem...g-p320-x-carry/

 

The other contenders were Glock 17 Gen5, Canik Tp9, and Beretta APX. 

 

Im just glad the Block didn't win this one :D  


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 1132 AM

Glock 17 and 19 are already in service with the Royal Danish to supplement the venerable m/49 (SIG P210). Gaston is everywhere. ;)
The pistols are manufactured just south of the border in Eckernförde by SIG-Sauer GmbH.
 
 
danish army video:



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just because. B)

interesting channel by the danish roya army btw


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 1309 PM

Glock 17 and 19 are already in service with the Royal Danish to supplement the venerable m/49 (SIG P210). 

Yes but only used in a few numbers by special forces, MPs and possibly some Air Farce specialist units......and fortunately not for long! ...the SIG is meant to replace all other hand guns in the armed forces.

 

The pistols are manufactured just south of the border in Eckernförde by SIG-Sauer GmbH.

So they are not going to be made in the US ?.....i thought the P320 was a SIG-SAUER Inc. developed gun ? .....Of course if they are to be made in Germany at least there is a chance that they will work properly  :D 

 

 interesting channel by the danish roya army btw

It is, however mostly aimed at military "clueless" civilians. Does a decent job of showing off our equipment though.


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