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#4041 Murph

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 0524 AM

It is funny how the anniversary of the murder of 3,000 Americans seems to invoke such frothing anti American sentiment in the American left. 

The Left wishes more were murdered.  It is what they do.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 0544 AM

Terrorist enabling/supporting group and un-indicted co-conspirator CAIR forces church to cancel event asking "Is Michigan surrendering to Islam?" event. https://pjmedia.com/...to-islam-event/     


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 0938 AM

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For the record, this was the tweet NYT sent out on 9/11. It was deleted when the reactions came in.

 

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Nothing wrong there. A tweet does not have the space to list dozens of names. But the perpetually offended are offended of course.  :glare:


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 0950 AM

The word Islamists or the word extremist would have fit in the place of the word airplanes.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 1052 AM

 

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For the record, this was the tweet NYT sent out on 9/11. It was deleted when the reactions came in.

 

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Nothing wrong there. A tweet does not have the space to list dozens of names. But the perpetually offended are offended of course.  :glare:

 

 

I'm usually in the camp to dismiss faux outrage... but why use airplanes over terrorists?  I think they deserve whatever negativity came their way for this one. 


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Posted 14 September 2019 - 0947 AM

YAY!  We smoked another Bin Laden.  Hamza Bin Laden has assumed room temperature.  One more down, and a lot more to go:  https://www.breitbar...uccessor-hamza/


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Posted 14 September 2019 - 1010 AM

Slimeball Willard Romney once more proves how right we were not to have him as a surrender monkey president.  He would have surrendered to everything the Democrats wanted to do.  https://hotair.com/a...president-2020/


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Posted 14 September 2019 - 1807 PM

Slimeball Willard Romney once more proves how right we were not to have him as a surrender monkey president.  He would have surrendered to everything the Democrats wanted to do.  https://hotair.com/a...president-2020/

 

Huh?  What are you talking about?

 

The link is merely touching on how Romney has chosen not to endorse anyone for 2020.  It even goes on to say in a way that's a nod towards Trump:

 

 

He *is* showing some loyalty to Trump here. Kind of. There are now three different primary challengers to the president; Romney happens to be buddies with one of them, Bill Weld, and would doubtless heartily agree with another, Mark Sanford, that the Trump administration needs to take America’s looming fiscal crisis more seriously. And no one in the race this year sounds as much like Romney did in his (in)famous 2016 speech lambasting Trump as Joe Walsh, who lashes the president every day in media appearances for his character deficiencies. Instead of backing one, Mitt’s staying neutral.

 

A lot of voters tend to be focused on a narrow set of issues that drive them.  Take two I've been talking about for years here on TN - fiscal responsibility and health care reform.  You can't say Trump has been a fiscal conservative nor has he made any moves to be one.  He's also done nothing meaningful on nor has he shown even a basic understanding of health care reform.  Why should someone like me get behind him?  Why should everyone get lock step behind Trump?


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 0541 AM

 

Slimeball Willard Romney once more proves how right we were not to have him as a surrender monkey president.  He would have surrendered to everything the Democrats wanted to do.  https://hotair.com/a...president-2020/

 

Huh?  What are you talking about?

 

The link is merely touching on how Romney has chosen not to endorse anyone for 2020.  It even goes on to say in a way that's a nod towards Trump:

 

 

He *is* showing some loyalty to Trump here. Kind of. There are now three different primary challengers to the president; Romney happens to be buddies with one of them, Bill Weld, and would doubtless heartily agree with another, Mark Sanford, that the Trump administration needs to take America’s looming fiscal crisis more seriously. And no one in the race this year sounds as much like Romney did in his (in)famous 2016 speech lambasting Trump as Joe Walsh, who lashes the president every day in media appearances for his character deficiencies. Instead of backing one, Mitt’s staying neutral.

 

A lot of voters tend to be focused on a narrow set of issues that drive them.  Take two I've been talking about for years here on TN - fiscal responsibility and health care reform.  You can't say Trump has been a fiscal conservative nor has he made any moves to be one.  He's also done nothing meaningful on nor has he shown even a basic understanding of health care reform.  Why should someone like me get behind him?  Why should everyone get lock step behind Trump?

 

Your last paragraph.  There are several reasons why a normal person should vote for Trump. Trump has done well on some aspects of conservative fiscal responsibility. The most obvious is the increase in business and personal economic confidence. Second is the lowering of federal taxes and regulation. Third is he is actually economically confronting China -- imo, though, China is not the total villian, alot of this is self-inflected. Fourth, he is electing conservative judges. Fifth, he is lowering the flood of illegal immigration. Let's be honest though, the main problem of fiscal irresponsibility is the lack of it from the voting public., not Trump.

Health care. First off, he is correct in that liberal, socialist health care schemes are wrong. Yes there is a big problem with the cost of health care, for example medications, but much of this is the result of poor personal choices. Also, a problem that was touched upon the Wall St. Journal article earlier, is the growing blubber of hospital bureaucracy.


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 0719 AM

How are tax cuts in the face of a record deficit a sign of "fiscal responsibility"?


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 0738 AM

Not sure if this should be here or in the "Because, Germany" thread given the guy's teutonic name; Klopfer is German for "knocker",* or in the case of Disney movies about cute deer, "thumper". But given the location and very American abortion debate this is likely to fuel, probably better in this thread.

 

Dr Ulrich Klopfer: Thousands of foetal remains found in home

 
7 hours ago
 
The remains of more than 2,000 foetuses have been found at the Illinois home of a former abortion doctor.

 

The family of Dr Ulrich Klopfer discovered the remains while sorting through the doctor's property after his death on 3 September.

 

Dr Klopfer had a clinic in South Bend, Indiana, which closed down when his licence was revoked in 2016.

 

He was accused of failing to report abortions performed on a 13-year-old girl to authorities.

 

He also failed to ensure staff were present during procedures, AP reported.

 

The doctor, whose records show he was an osteopathic physician, said he had never lost a patient in 43 years of carrying out abortions.

 

"Women get pregnant, men don't," Dr. Klopfer said during the hearing, according to the New York Times. "We need to respect women making a decision that they think is best in their life. I'm not here to dictate to anybody. I'm not here to judge anybody."

 

Authorities uncovered the remains of 2,246 foetuses in total.

 

The coroner's office has taken possession of the remains and launched an investigation.

 

https://www.bbc.com/...canada-49705344

 

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Posted 15 September 2019 - 0747 AM

They mentioned he was osteopathic.  That's a bit neither here-nor-there.  To my osteopathic ears, it's kind of a low-key way of saying he's a quack.  No mention of specialty either. 

 

Can't help but notice anytime an osteopathic physician does some awful, the press likes to point that out.  See:  Michigan State gymnastics doctor.

 

But if an osteopath does something brave:

 

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(Osteopaths have D.O., and not M.D., degrees btw)


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 0957 AM

Not only was he a child molester, he was a murderer.  The kind of person the Left wants to emulate, and hold up as what they stand with.


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1025 AM

Slimeball Willard Romney once more proves how right we were not to have him as a surrender monkey president.  He would have surrendered to everything the Democrats wanted to do.  https://hotair.com/a...president-2020/

 

Willard was more than happy to get Trump's endorsement and this is how he repays that. It's not like endorsing Trump would put him in any political peril, it's all for his ego and fitting in with the establishment. Gutless backstabbing weasel.


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1044 AM

 

Slimeball Willard Romney once more proves how right we were not to have him as a surrender monkey president.  He would have surrendered to everything the Democrats wanted to do.  https://hotair.com/a...president-2020/

 

Willard was more than happy to get Trump's endorsement and this is how he repays that. It's not like endorsing Trump would put him in any political peril, it's all for his ego and fitting in with the establishment. Gutless backstabbing weasel.

 

Agreed.  Willard is a loathesome example of the RINO right.


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1639 PM

How are tax cuts in the face of a record deficit a sign of "fiscal responsibility"?

The federal government has a spending problem, not an income problem.


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1732 PM

 

 

Slimeball Willard Romney once more proves how right we were not to have him as a surrender monkey president.  He would have surrendered to everything the Democrats wanted to do.  https://hotair.com/a...president-2020/

 

Huh?  What are you talking about?

 

The link is merely touching on how Romney has chosen not to endorse anyone for 2020.  It even goes on to say in a way that's a nod towards Trump:

 

 

He *is* showing some loyalty to Trump here. Kind of. There are now three different primary challengers to the president; Romney happens to be buddies with one of them, Bill Weld, and would doubtless heartily agree with another, Mark Sanford, that the Trump administration needs to take America’s looming fiscal crisis more seriously. And no one in the race this year sounds as much like Romney did in his (in)famous 2016 speech lambasting Trump as Joe Walsh, who lashes the president every day in media appearances for his character deficiencies. Instead of backing one, Mitt’s staying neutral.

 

A lot of voters tend to be focused on a narrow set of issues that drive them.  Take two I've been talking about for years here on TN - fiscal responsibility and health care reform.  You can't say Trump has been a fiscal conservative nor has he made any moves to be one.  He's also done nothing meaningful on nor has he shown even a basic understanding of health care reform.  Why should someone like me get behind him?  Why should everyone get lock step behind Trump?

 

Your last paragraph.  There are several reasons why a normal person should vote for Trump. Trump has done well on some aspects of conservative fiscal responsibility. The most obvious is the increase in business and personal economic confidence. Second is the lowering of federal taxes and regulation. Third is he is actually economically confronting China -- imo, though, China is not the total villian, alot of this is self-inflected. Fourth, he is electing conservative judges. Fifth, he is lowering the flood of illegal immigration. Let's be honest though, the main problem of fiscal irresponsibility is the lack of it from the voting public., not Trump.

Health care. First off, he is correct in that liberal, socialist health care schemes are wrong. Yes there is a big problem with the cost of health care, for example medications, but much of this is the result of poor personal choices. Also, a problem that was touched upon the Wall St. Journal article earlier, is the growing blubber of hospital bureaucracy.

 

 

None of that addresses the two points I brought up.

 

As for fiscal conservatism - Trump has done nothing to cut spending or lower the debt.  On the contrary both have gone up under him.  That is fiscally irresponsible.  Period.

 

As for health care reform - it's not a simple problem with a singular solution.  There are more options than keep the bloated, overpriced reality of what we have now or socialized medicine.  There are a plethora of laws and regulations which have led us to where we are now.  Those can be changed.  Shifts towards moving that industry to more free market and less corralled by the special interests is something Trump and the Rs can be doing.  They're not.  The reason being is most likely they're in too tight with the special interests who are making bank in our current system.

 

Those are the two big things I've talked about for years.  He's done nothing to address either.  Why should I vote for him when he does nothing on them?  Doubly so when both can be argued as key Conservative tenets that are simply being ignored and have been for decades?


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 1937 PM

 

 

 

Slimeball Willard Romney once more proves how right we were not to have him as a surrender monkey president.  He would have surrendered to everything the Democrats wanted to do.  https://hotair.com/a...president-2020/

 

Huh?  What are you talking about?

 

The link is merely touching on how Romney has chosen not to endorse anyone for 2020.  It even goes on to say in a way that's a nod towards Trump:

 

 

He *is* showing some loyalty to Trump here. Kind of. There are now three different primary challengers to the president; Romney happens to be buddies with one of them, Bill Weld, and would doubtless heartily agree with another, Mark Sanford, that the Trump administration needs to take America’s looming fiscal crisis more seriously. And no one in the race this year sounds as much like Romney did in his (in)famous 2016 speech lambasting Trump as Joe Walsh, who lashes the president every day in media appearances for his character deficiencies. Instead of backing one, Mitt’s staying neutral.

 

A lot of voters tend to be focused on a narrow set of issues that drive them.  Take two I've been talking about for years here on TN - fiscal responsibility and health care reform.  You can't say Trump has been a fiscal conservative nor has he made any moves to be one.  He's also done nothing meaningful on nor has he shown even a basic understanding of health care reform.  Why should someone like me get behind him?  Why should everyone get lock step behind Trump?

 

Your last paragraph.  There are several reasons why a normal person should vote for Trump. Trump has done well on some aspects of conservative fiscal responsibility. The most obvious is the increase in business and personal economic confidence. Second is the lowering of federal taxes and regulation. Third is he is actually economically confronting China -- imo, though, China is not the total villian, alot of this is self-inflected. Fourth, he is electing conservative judges. Fifth, he is lowering the flood of illegal immigration. Let's be honest though, the main problem of fiscal irresponsibility is the lack of it from the voting public., not Trump.

Health care. First off, he is correct in that liberal, socialist health care schemes are wrong. Yes there is a big problem with the cost of health care, for example medications, but much of this is the result of poor personal choices. Also, a problem that was touched upon the Wall St. Journal article earlier, is the growing blubber of hospital bureaucracy.

 

 

None of that addresses the two points I brought up.

 

As for fiscal conservatism - Trump has done nothing to cut spending or lower the debt.  On the contrary both have gone up under him.  That is fiscally irresponsible.  Period.

 

As for health care reform - it's not a simple problem with a singular solution.  There are more options than keep the bloated, overpriced reality of what we have now or socialized medicine.  There are a plethora of laws and regulations which have led us to where we are now.  Those can be changed.  Shifts towards moving that industry to more free market and less corralled by the special interests is something Trump and the Rs can be doing.  They're not.  The reason being is most likely they're in too tight with the special interests who are making bank in our current system.

 

Those are the two big things I've talked about for years.  He's done nothing to address either.  Why should I vote for him when he does nothing on them?  Doubly so when both can be argued as key Conservative tenets that are simply being ignored and have been for decades?

 

First paragraph, last sentence, is the answer to your question. 


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Posted 15 September 2019 - 2350 PM

How are tax cuts in the face of a record deficit a sign of "fiscal responsibility"?


How is ANY deficit spending in the face of a mounting debt fiscal responsibility?

The spend should be LESS than the federal tax receipts. Period.
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Posted 16 September 2019 - 0007 AM

As for fiscal conservatism - Trump has done nothing to cut spending or lower the debt.  On the contrary both have gone up under him.  That is fiscally irresponsible.  Period.


Demonstrably false.

Reducing federal regulations that are complex, expensive, conflict with one another and cost the tax payers money both at the agency level AND in the form of compliance cost is in fact something.

This is in fact specifically on point for the things that you say he has not been doing. Want to bitch about the spending? Look to the house where the spending bills originate.
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