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#241 Panzermann

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 0505 AM

Maybe underneath the gun?


I do not think so. It is an artillery piece after all, that needs elevation for long range fire.


I think the missing five are in the double rows/stacks and cannot be seen in the drawings.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 2237 PM

Here's a better version of that same drawing from the SU-122-54 manual...

 

 SU-122-54_Ammo%20Storage_Drawing_Manual_



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 0312 AM

Wait a moment... The SU-122-54 manual is available on the open web? Finding out the ammo capacity should be short and easy work, then. The ammo capacity is usually listed in the first couple of pages.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 1636 PM

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 0052 AM

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 2123 PM

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 0346 AM

Lo...I have touched its temporal being.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 0637 AM

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 0847 AM

I see they mave made new description plates. That star looks a bit superflously silly.



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Posted 03 September 2017 - 2329 PM

Panzermann; that's the third new description/data plate they've used since I was there in 2012...the glass barriers are relatively new as well.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 0237 AM

Being regularized to Park Patriot design.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 0432 AM

Being regularized to Park Patriot design.

 

Makes sense kind of for the "brand identity" of Patriot Park.

 

Panzermann; that's the third new description/data plate they've used since I was there in 2012...the glass barriers are relatively new as well.

Notced those too. Look more professional, but how do they move their exhibits now? unscrewing all the fences? Or can they back out through the rear wall?



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 0926 AM

You can see the hangar doors in my album.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 2220 PM

The 1953 report, "The Tank and Assault Gun Industry of the USSR" (Feb 1953), confirms that a T-54-based assault gun (along with one based on the JS-III), was expected in 1950. It was also expected to be produced at the Sverdlovsk plant. Interestingly enough, the first Object 600 prototype was built and delivered by the Omsk plant in 1950, with factory testing in 1951.
That's pretty close...

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Object 600 (1951):

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 2241 PM

Just for comparison...

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 2256 PM

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 2309 PM

Finally a bit of info regarding the planned up-gunned SU-122L (Object 620):

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 0339 AM

Looks like their answer to M103 and Conqueror in the west. The timing is certainly indicative.



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Posted 22 October 2017 - 0633 AM

Looks like their answer to M103 and Conqueror in the west. The timing is certainly indicative.

 

Cetainly looks like they turned fire suport into an anti-tank role.

 

 

Was there an AP or APDS for the M-62C cannon to kill the NATO heavies?

(is that actually a latin S or a C?)



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Posted 22 October 2017 - 0724 AM

 

Cetainly looks like they turned fire suport into an anti-tank role.

 

Was there an AP or APDS for the M-62C cannon to kill the NATO heavies?

(is that actually a latin S or a C?)

 

 

SU-122-54 was always primary AT.

Regarding weapon - S from "somohodniy" (self-propelled). BK-9 HEAT (460mm) was introduced in 1964, BM-11 APDS ([email protected]@2km) in 1969.






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