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#41 bojan

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 1902 PM

Looks like AT-P light artillery tractor, which is a vehicle ASU-57 was based on.



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 0122 AM

Front of AT-P is quite different:

 

http://en.valka.cz/a...ts/5461/ATP.JPG



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 0602 AM

Nailed it, it is ASU-57KShM, IOW gunless ASU-57 used as command vehicle. Quite rare beast considering lack of photos on the net.
 



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 0750 AM

I'm quite amazed to see SU-122-54 in Prague, there were what, 77 of them?

 

On a related note does anyone have a TO&E for Soviet forces in Prague? I've seen photos of all sorts (ASU-57, ASU-85, T-55, T-62, T-10M, ZSU-57, BRDM-1, BTR-60... and now SU-122-54!)

 

Also this which appears to be some ASU-57 derived APC?

asu57m1964apcyo2.jpg

 

The legs on the blonde look pretty good.  Didn't see the APC.  :D 



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 2352 PM

Now we know that there were at least two different SU-122-54s used during the invasion of Czecholsovakia (vehicle #340 and vehicle #576/578)...

 

 

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 2309 PM

Can someone provide some details regarding the rounds fired by the SU-122-54 (designations, performance,etc.)?



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 0618 AM

OF-471 HE

BR-471D APCBC

Balistically D-49 gun was same as D-25.

 

Plans were made to equip all SU-122-54 with 122mm M-62 guns, but in was never implemented.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 2225 PM

OF-471 HE

BR-471D APCBC

Balistically D-49 gun was same as D-25.

 

Plans were made to equip all SU-122-54 with 122mm M-62 guns, but in was never implemented.

 

Thanks Bojan!



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 2238 PM

Here are two better pics of the SU-122-54 (used as a TV prop), for the 1970 Russian TV series, "Ruins are Shooting"...

 

jhw1.jpg

 

7ijb.jpg
 


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 0035 AM

Here's a vidcap from a Soviet Army exercise video that included a group of SU-122-54s...probably from Operation Dniepr in 1967:

 

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 0516 AM

A short article on SU-122/54. Most interesting detail is D-49 gun. Crew was 5 (as in ISU-122) which meant a higher ROF than IS tanks. Only +100 produced as Khruschev thought the future lay in missiles.

 

http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-6519.htm



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 0011 AM

A "new" pic of an SU-122-54...in the field:

 

r1nh.jpg
 



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 0443 AM

I wonder what the crew is doing….  On the left track chain it is the cable from BTS or BREM attached (see special removable shackle on it). On the right track chain it is some auxiliary cable attached, not  special-issue tank one (see makeshift knot). One of the crew is wearing working gloves – it is uncommon in summer….   My guess is this vehicle is serving as anchor in a recovery operation or stand ready to be used in this role (for example during underwater river crossing)



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 1315 PM

I wonder what the crew is doing….  On the left track chain it is the cable from BTS or BREM attached (see special removable shackle on it). On the right track chain it is some auxiliary cable attached, not  special-issue tank one (see makeshift knot). One of the crew is wearing working gloves – it is uncommon in summer….   My guess is this vehicle is serving as anchor in a recovery operation or stand ready to be used in this role (for example during underwater river crossing)

Maybe an anchor, but then why not use the hooks on the front slope?  The only reason I can think of for the crew to attach the cables to the track, would be to increase the pull distance when reversing.  As the vehicle backs up the top of the track moves twice as far as the hull.  If the pulling vehicle backs up 3 meters the track will move 6 meters and so will the recovered vehicle.



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 1559 PM

This is a really interesting vehicle, but even more interesting would be to find out how it was deployed / employed and in what kind of unit.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 1112 AM

Balistically D-49 gun was same as D-25.

 

D-49 was a modernised versions of D-25S. Can you comment on the improvements? according to Russian sources the chambering was improved, but it is hard to understand using Google Translate.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 0856 AM

I have been looking for information on the vehicle. Production is stated differently, some sources state 77 and others +90. I am surprised by size of the crew (5). If loading of the gun was assisted I would have expected a reduction to 4. Some more photos, probably of trials:

 

T54172.jpg

 

T54171.jpg

 

T54174.jpg

 

T54173.jpg

 

http://vadimvswar.na.../T54/T54048.htm



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 0910 AM

The order to up arm it to the M-62 was given, but they never got around to it.

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Tow tractor on the SU-122-54  chassis. Routinely participated in parades on Red Square.


Edited by pharoahjared, 13 December 2013 - 0917 AM.


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 2359 PM

Here's another pic of one of the SU-122-54 prototypes...

 

SU-122-54_17.jpg



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 0848 AM

How bad are they for digging the muzzle into the ground, especially on steep grades?


Edited by shep854, 02 January 2014 - 0938 AM.





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