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#6181 Harkonnen

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Posted 18 July 2019 - 0847 AM

It is NOT object 490B


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#6182 Harkonnen

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Posted 22 July 2019 - 1618 PM

English version of FST 2000 article

The new version of Object “490” was under development in parallel with the Object “477”. This led to the creation of the most unusual projects in the history of post-war tank design, characterized by unmatched levels of protection, mobility and firepower 

http://btvt.info/7en..._490_21_vek.htm


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#6183 Stefan Kotsch

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Posted 22 July 2019 - 1659 PM

Is not this the ultimate nightmare for the technicians?


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Posted 22 July 2019 - 1720 PM

Is not this the ultimate nightmare for the technicians?

 

It depends on how questions of engine (motor compartament) service are solved, maybe it is a paradise for technicians ) 4 tracks - don't see any problems as they are automatically tensioned. 


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#6185 Gavin-Phillips

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Posted 23 July 2019 - 1319 PM

English version of FST 2000 article

The new version of Object “490” was under development in parallel with the Object “477”. This led to the creation of the most unusual projects in the history of post-war tank design, characterized by unmatched levels of protection, mobility and firepower 

http://btvt.info/7en..._490_21_vek.htm

 

Fascinating read!  Thanks for sharing it.

 

I wonder what happened to the test chassis mentioned based on T-64 hull elements...?  Even that would be worthy of a place in a museum I think.


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#6186 Panzermann

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Posted 24 July 2019 - 1947 PM

interior shots of the KV-2 turret:

 

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Posted 24 July 2019 - 2012 PM

It gives me an impression of cramped. 


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Posted 25 July 2019 - 0245 AM

Oh, i see electric motors for traverse and elevation?


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Posted 25 July 2019 - 1425 PM

Wow that's awesome!  I take it these shots are from the KV-2 at Central Armed Forces Museum in Moscow?  To my more or less untrained eye, there doesn't appear to be much left of anything that would indicate how the 36 rounds of 152mm ammunition were stored, vertical or horizontal, ready rounds on the turret interior walls and the remainder stored in under-floor compartments or under mats as per the KV-1?  It looks like the KV-2 might have some secrets left to it afterall.

 

The KV-2 has always been a favourite of mine.  :) Not quite sure why, it hasn't won any awards for its looks but it looks a real impressive monster to be sure.  


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Posted 25 July 2019 - 1431 PM

Su-152 was the proper way to do this sort of specialised bunker buster though.


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Posted 25 July 2019 - 1612 PM

Yes, in CAF Museum. There is cosmetic restoration currently going of it, gunboat and T-28 tank.

Yuri Pasholok posts semi-regular updates on FB.


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Posted 26 July 2019 - 1152 AM

Yes, in CAF Museum. There is cosmetic restoration currently going of it, gunboat and T-28 tank.

Yuri Pasholok posts semi-regular updates on FB.

 

If I ever manage to get to Moscow one day, that museum is one of the places on my "to visit" list for sure.  To see an actual KV-2 is stuff of legend to me really - as sad as that may sound.  Anything else like the early model T-28 would be a big bonus.  


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Posted 27 July 2019 - 0904 AM

Oh, i see electric motors for traverse and elevation?


Looks like it. Who would want to crank this battelship turret with a hand crank?

 

Yes, in CAF Museum. There is cosmetic restoration currently going of it, gunboat and T-28 tank.
Yuri Pasholok posts semi-regular updates on FB.

 
If I ever manage to get to Moscow one day, that museum is one of the places on my "to visit" list for sure.  To see an actual KV-2 is stuff of legend to me really - as sad as that may sound.  Anything else like the early model T-28 would be a big bonus.


I don't know from which of the handful surviving KV-2 these photos are. Sorry. I stumbled randomly over the photos on imgur.


One turret has been made driveable again with an IS-2 hull:


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#6194 Gavin-Phillips

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Posted 27 July 2019 - 0956 AM

I don't know from which of the handful surviving KV-2 these photos are. Sorry. I stumbled randomly over the photos on imgur.



One turret has been made driveable again with an IS-2 hull:

 

 

I'm only aware of two KV-2 "survivors".  One being in the CAF Museum in Moscow and the other at an airbase I do believe?  Not sure where it is but from the pictures I recall, its actually the earlier turret design with the pointed turret rear and flat turret sides.  I'm not sure of the tank's actual history, seemingly some parts of it were actually newly manufactured?

 

As for the IS-2/KV-2 creation, I'm pretty sure that actually played a role in a movie concerning a KV-2 that was driving across a wooden bridge which subsequently collapsed under its weight.  With the aid of a vintage tractor and literally a whole town's population, the vehicle was eventually recovered and the crew headed off back into the warzone...  I don't recall the name of the movie but it was on youtube a while back.

 

The IS-2/KV-2 is an interesting idea.  I suppose it looks the part for parades, re-enactments or demonstrations.  I'm wondering if the turret interior is complete as well?  


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Posted 27 July 2019 - 1158 AM

Regarding the KV-2, are there information on its turret (powered ?) traverse speed ?


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 0902 AM

https://youtu.be/obJyjWlV8f4

 

 

 

T-90A firing at something 5km away 


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 1039 AM

https://youtu.be/obJyjWlV8f4

 

 

 

T-90A firing at something 5km away 

What do you suppose the odds are that a target just happens to be exactly 5000 meters away?  


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 1054 AM

 

https://youtu.be/obJyjWlV8f4

 

 

 

T-90A firing at something 5km away 

What do you suppose the odds are that a target just happens to be exactly 5000 meters away?  

 

 

It's hardly impossible given the time between the shot and the splash, but it could also be the rangefinder maxing out. If memory serves, the laser rangefinder in the 1G46 is claimed to have an operating range of 400 to 5000 meters.


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 1214 PM

 


 

It's hardly impossible given the time between the shot and the splash, but it could also be the rangefinder maxing out. If memory serves, the laser rangefinder in the 1G46 is claimed to have an operating range of 400 to 5000 meters.

 

it's 10 seconds between shot and hit, HEAT flight time for 5km somewhere between 9-10 sec

 

1G46 laser rangefinder is working up(can measure distances) to 9100 meters, this was proved during trials in Greece 

 

 

What do you suppose the odds are that a target just happens to be exactly 5000 meters away?  

 

 

 

 

somewhere near, shot at 0:23 hit at 0:32-33

 

btw, this could be T-72B3, not T-90A


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 1824 PM

It's hardly impossible given the time between the shot and the splash, but it could also be the rangefinder maxing out. If memory serves, the laser rangefinder in the 1G46 is claimed to have an operating range of 400 to 5000 meters.

 

That's kind of where I was going with that.  The LRF on the M60A3 would display 9995 and the one on the M1 would display 9999, neither of which was a good range.


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