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#2361 Luckyorwhat

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 1232 PM

Remember that when next ISIS/radical islamist attack happens in Europe.

GAS PANIC Packed tourist hotspot Beachy Head evacuated and 238 people ‘decontaminated’ in hospital with HUNDREDS more suffering burning eyes and breathing difficulties after mystery ‘chemical mist’ blows in from sea

Dramatic pictures show a bizarre haze blowing in from the sea forcing beachgoers to flee

 

 

 

UN will be a problem

LoL'd here. Really?

 

They've had to kill the observers and destroy observation towers before, that's a problem. They've got a little issue with UNESCO going on, as well and human rights issues. Doubt they can make territorial conquests without international sanctions.

 

Israel is an annoying threat currently being gnawed on by Hezbollah and Hamas, the real battle is against the Saudi's. Iran wants to threaten Israel because it gives them street creds with the "Arab street" and distracts from the fact that their client killed shitloads of his people. 

The leadership seems to be corrupted mafia types influenced by property developers. The Israeli people are not in favour of the 'settlements', (http://www.haaretz.c...torial/1.808502) everyone can see they're disgusting. The Israeli people voted for a peace politician, he died suspiciously and almost immediately. The PM seems to be a corrupt criminal skirting prison time every other week. Clearly they want to move into the luxurious abode of Lebanon and evict the current squatters. Who doesn't like beach-front Mediterranean property? Now that the Shia corridor exists, the embargo of Lebanon doesn't work, and the real problem is that dual-use machine tools and skills are being imported there, meaning every year Israel waits Lebanon becomes a tougher nut to crack.

 

 

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“There shall be no Prussia for the Middle East”

 

 

It was Ceasar's reason for preemptively invading Gaul, get them now before they become more organized like us.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 2145 PM


Remember that when next ISIS/radical islamist attack happens in Europe.

GAS PANIC Packed tourist hotspot Beachy Head evacuated and 238 people decontaminated in hospital with HUNDREDS more suffering burning eyes and breathing difficulties after mystery chemical mist blows in from sea

Dramatic pictures show a bizarre haze blowing in from the sea forcing beachgoers to flee
 

Erm... Let's not get carried away:

Toxic cloud on Sussex coast may have come from ship, say sources

https://www.theguard...py_to_clipboard
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#2363 Luckyorwhat

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 0651 AM

Yes, let's ignore this event, I'm sure it will, blow over. (duh duh duh)

 

When a child gets hurt, the parent is supposed to remain calm and smile.

 

And it's just Ozone according to that source. And the casualties went down instead of up. Disregard all the first hand accounts, of the smell and colour and symptoms. It was transparent ozone.  "Everyone is fine, go to your job tomorrow." Find it hard to believe their reporting is that inept. When real terrorist attacks happen, you don't give them credit. Have to read the next issue of Dabiq and see if they claim. Even if it was a hapless ferry, choosing to vent it's toxic cargo, you think some enforcement agency would be after them for the discomfort they caused a thousand men women and children, or the pollution, there must be some law that's been broken.

 

Perhaps terrorist attacks are designed to cause an emotional  reaction in the target population culminating is a predictable reaction larger than their inputs otherwise could, and so a way to reduce their effect is to ignore them. The car attacks can get coverage, because we have a plan to ban humans from driving so they help. This doesn't help any agenda, so ISIS can just pick away and no-one is going to get upset and demand a solution.

 

  Articles on how to home-make a gas mask would serve the attacker more. No one is allowed to do this to people, the official nonchalance hides true feelings.


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 2310 PM

As a retro piece, this footage from August 1990 turned up recently, showing then LTC James Mattis being interviewed during the early stages of Operation Desert Shield. He appears at about 2:17:

 


Edited by Dark_Falcon, 04 September 2017 - 1845 PM.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 1828 PM

As a retro piece, this footage from August 1990 turned up recent, showing then LTC James Mattis being interviewed during the early stages of Operation Desert Shield. He appears at about 2:17:
 


Damn. Chaos was young??? :lol: ;)

Srsly, that video just brought back a ton of memories of the 1990s when life felt sooooooooo much better....
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Posted 06 September 2017 - 0929 AM

Yes, let's ignore this event, I'm sure it will, blow over. (duh duh duh)

 

When a child gets hurt, the parent is supposed to remain calm and smile.

 

And it's just Ozone according to that source. And the casualties went down instead of up. Disregard all the first hand accounts, of the smell and colour and symptoms. It was transparent ozone.  "Everyone is fine, go to your job tomorrow." Find it hard to believe their reporting is that inept. When real terrorist attacks happen, you don't give them credit. Have to read the next issue of Dabiq and see if they claim. Even if it was a hapless ferry, choosing to vent it's toxic cargo, you think some enforcement agency would be after them for the discomfort they caused a thousand men women and children, or the pollution, there must be some law that's been broken.

 

Perhaps terrorist attacks are designed to cause an emotional  reaction in the target population culminating is a predictable reaction larger than their inputs otherwise could, and so a way to reduce their effect is to ignore them. The car attacks can get coverage, because we have a plan to ban humans from driving so they help. This doesn't help any agenda, so ISIS can just pick away and no-one is going to get upset and demand a solution.

 

  Articles on how to home-make a gas mask would serve the attacker more. No one is allowed to do this to people, the official nonchalance hides true feelings.

 

 

Remember that when next ISIS/radical islamist attack happens in Europe.

GAS PANIC Packed tourist hotspot Beachy Head evacuated and 238 people ‘decontaminated’ in hospital with HUNDREDS more suffering burning eyes and breathing difficulties after mystery ‘chemical mist’ blows in from sea

Dramatic pictures show a bizarre haze blowing in from the sea forcing beachgoers to flee

 

 

 

UN will be a problem

LoL'd here. Really?

 

They've had to kill the observers and destroy observation towers before, that's a problem. They've got a little issue with UNESCO going on, as well and human rights issues. Doubt they can make territorial conquests without international sanctions.

 

Israel is an annoying threat currently being gnawed on by Hezbollah and Hamas, the real battle is against the Saudi's. Iran wants to threaten Israel because it gives them street creds with the "Arab street" and distracts from the fact that their client killed shitloads of his people. 

The leadership seems to be corrupted mafia types influenced by property developers. The Israeli people are not in favour of the 'settlements', (http://www.haaretz.c...torial/1.808502) everyone can see they're disgusting. The Israeli people voted for a peace politician, he died suspiciously and almost immediately. The PM seems to be a corrupt criminal skirting prison time every other week. Clearly they want to move into the luxurious abode of Lebanon and evict the current squatters. Who doesn't like beach-front Mediterranean property? Now that the Shia corridor exists, the embargo of Lebanon doesn't work, and the real problem is that dual-use machine tools and skills are being imported there, meaning every year Israel waits Lebanon becomes a tougher nut to crack.

 

 

If you’re looking to drill down on this message try,

 

 

“There shall be no Prussia for the Middle East”

 

 

It was Ceasar's reason for preemptively invading Gaul, get them now before they become more organized like us.

 

The UN observers will pull out when Hezbollah gets pushy, Lebanon is already a vassal state, but to Syria and it's henchmen 

 


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#2367 Luckyorwhat

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 1719 PM

Observers will stay, and perhaps die. As a Canadian I'm sure you can appreciate that dutiful men have died doing said job.


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 0342 AM

of course he would say that:
 

 

#World News September 12, 2017 / 7:21 PM / 3 days ago
Iraqi PM Abadi says Kurdish independence referendum 'unconstitutional'

Reuters Staff

 

 

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi described the Kurdistan region’s planned referendum on independence as “unconstitutional” on Tuesday, hours after parliament voted against the regional plebiscite.

“I call upon the Kurdish leadership to come to Baghdad and conclude a dialogue,” Abadi said at a news conference.

Reporting by Ahmed Rasheed; Writing by Raya Jalabi; Editing by Hugh Lawson

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

 

 

 

 

https://www.reuters....l-idUSKCN1BN2FK


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 1000 AM

The Kurds in Iraq voted a sharp and clear 93.29% yes for independence from Bagdad.
 
 
 big party on the streets: https://twitter.com/...606194296115200
 
 

Do you want the Kurdistan Region and the Kurdistani areas outside the administration of the Region to become an independent state?


Yes: 93.29% No: 6.71% of  282,017 votes cast

 
note the wording.. and no invalid votes? :huh:
 
breakdown of what region voted how: http://www.rudaw.net...x?pageid=329292

 

many 0% turnouts.

 

 

So, Barzani can now go on with his plan for his little fiefdom of Barzanistan.


Edited by Panzermann, 26 September 2017 - 1001 AM.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 1112 AM

The Kurds in Iraq voted a sharp and clear 93.29% yes for independence from Bagdad.
 
 
 big party on the streets: https://twitter.com/...606194296115200
 
 

Do you want the Kurdistan Region and the Kurdistani areas outside the administration of the Region to become an independent state?


Yes: 93.29% No: 6.71% of  282,017 votes cast

 
note the wording.. and no invalid votes? :huh:
 
breakdown of what region voted how: http://www.rudaw.net...x?pageid=329292

 

many 0% turnouts.

 

 

So, Barzani can now go on with his plan for his little fiefdom of Barzanistan.

Noooooope, that's definitely doesn't remind me Crimea in 2014 and this one is 100% legitimate. Democrasy approved!


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#2371 Colin

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 0939 AM

I suspect that even without the voting fraud, it would have gone through, more like 60-70%


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 1014 AM

I wonder why I hear no voices about “referendum on gunpoint”
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Posted 28 September 2017 - 0523 AM

I wonder why I hear no voices about “referendum on gunpoint”
pesmerge_142.jpg

 
 
even worse. Over the last ten, fifteen years Barzani and his goons have driven out non-Kurds from the area. Refugees overseas were theoretically able to vote via internet. Theoretically. And guess who is counting the votes?  So the high result is totally unsurprisingly in favour of independence.
 
 
 
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Russia says it supports united Iraq in wake of Kurdistan independence referendum (rt)

 

interesting, that moscow supports a unified Iraq


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 0939 AM

yea I am a bit disappointed with such a quick announcement, I wonder who offered what to make the Russians take that position? 


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 0729 AM

Here's another bit of 'retro', though this one I'd rather not have had happen:

 

 

Lethal roadside bomb that killed scores of U.S. troops reappears in Iraq

 

IRBIL, Iraq — A roadside bomb that killed an American soldier in Iraq earlier this month was of a particularly lethal design not seen in six years, and its reappearance on the battlefield suggests that U.S. troops could again be facing a threat that bedeviled them at the height of the insurgency here, U.S. military officials said. 

 

The device was of a variety known as an explosively formed penetrator, or EFP, according to initial investigations, a weapon notorious for its destructive and deadly impact on armored vehicles and the service members inside them, two U.S. military officials said.

 

EFPs were among the most lethal weapons faced by U.S. forces before a troop withdrawal in 2011. The devices were considered a hallmark of the Iranian-backed Shiite militias battling the U.S. occupation after the toppling of Saddam Hussein. But the technology used to make them proliferated, and cruder versions were also deployed by Sunni militants.

 

U.S. military officials were quick to stress that they had not determined who was responsible for the attack. The Islamic State militant group — the only threat to U.S. and Iraqi troops over the past three years — was not known to have previously used the weapons, the officials said, though they may have acquired the expertise to make them. The officials talked about the investigation in response to questions about the circumstances of the bombing.

 

The Islamic State did not make any public claim of responsibility after the attack, on Oct. 1, which killed Spec. Alexander W. Missildine and wounded another soldier, according to the U.S. military. At the time it was struck, Missildine’s vehicle was traveling south on a major road in Salahuddin province, north of Baghdad, according to Col. Charles D. Constanza, a deputy commander for the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq.

 

I am somewhat curious as to what type of vehicle was hit.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 0544 AM

Media reports of an Iraqi army move on Kirkuk ... Reports are unclear though on whether this is a genuine attack or a feint to scare the Kurds.
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Posted 16 October 2017 - 0709 AM

Judging by this BBC report:

http://www.bbc.com/n...e-east-41631697

It looks more like a move for oil and military installations.

Either way, Kirkuk is a nice bargaining chip for the Kurds.
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Posted 16 October 2017 - 0733 AM

Judging by this BBC report:

http://www.bbc.com/n...e-east-41631697

It looks more like a move for oil and military installations.

Either way, Kirkuk is a nice bargaining chip for the Kurds.

A chip it appears they may not be able to keep.  The Peshmerga have been falling back in the face on the Counter-Terrorism Service and the Iraqi National Police, both of which are better equipped for urban combat than the Iraqi Kurds.  These are also some of the troops who liberated Mosul and they're better than anything the Kurds have faced before in a city.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 1640 PM

Baghdad's advance appears to have been hastened by newly exposed splits within the two main Kurdish political parties and divided Peshmerga military.

 

For years, the political scene in Iraqi Kurdistan has been dominated by two parties: the KDP, which is closely associated with the powerful Barzani family, and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), which is tied to the similarly powerful Talabani family. In the Kurdistan Regional Government, the KDP is the ruling party, but in the eastern portions of Iraqi Kurdistan — including the heavily disputed province of Kirkuk — the PUK is dominant. Moreover, Kurdistan's peshmerga forces are divided between loyalty to the KDP and to the PUK. The majority of the region's peshmerga units remain directly controlled by either PUK or KDP political bureaus, and only a few answer to the politically blended KRG government itself.

 

These differing chains of command have led to conflict. Soon after the start of last night's ISF advance, peshmerga forces under the control of the PUK reportedly received orders to withdraw from Kirkuk and to allow Baghdad's forces to take control of various installations. These events may have been the result of a prearranged agreement between the PUK's leadership — or, at least its Talabani factions — and the central government in Baghdad, which the Talabani family has courted closely. The Iraqi Oil Ministry's statement that both sides of the conflict agreed to avoid fighting around Kirkuk's oil fields provides further evidence that a deal was struck with the PUK. In the aftermath of last month's Kurdish independence referendum, the Talabani-led faction of the PUK has pushed to work closely with Baghdad, believing the referendum was an attempt for Kurdish President Masoud Barzani to consolidate political control. Indeed, Bafel Talabani, the son of recently deceased PUK leader Jalal Talabani, went on television Oct. 12 to call for a de-escalation of conflict between Arbil and Baghdad and to urge the creation of a joint administration between the two that would run Kirkuk. However, it also appears that some of the PUK's peshmerga are more loyal to a splinter faction of the group led by Kosrat Rasul. These forces have actually been working alongside the KDP, reinforcing the group's positions in Kirkuk.

The PUK's decision to withdraw has earned it intense criticism from the KDP, which has been sending in more KDP peshmerga brigades to reinforce Kurdish positions in Kirkuk. Right now, the PUK and the KDP seem more divided than ever, and there is a high risk of intra-Kurdish conflict during the coming days and weeks. In addition to reports of fighting between Kurdish and Iraqi forces, there have been indications of conflict between the PUK and the KDP's respective arms of the peshmerga. Eyewitnesses even report Kurdish civilians angrily protesting the perceived departure of PUK peshmerga forces from Kirkuk.

 

It is possible that Baghdad's moves in Kirkuk province were not initially intended to culminate in seizing the city itself. Statements by PUK-linked officials suggested that the goal was to take over the K1 military base on the outskirts of the city, as well as the oil and natural gas fields located in the province's hinterlands. But strong military pushback from the Kurds could have led to an operational decision to make a move onto the city — something the PUK might not have bargained when it made its alleged deal with Baghdad. And at this point, an Iraqi or Kurdish civil conflict could be on its way, whether any party intended it.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 0450 AM


President Barzani Holds Telephone Conversation with German Minister of Defense

19/10/2017
Salahadin, Kurdistan Region of Iraq, (Krp.org)- President Masoud Barzani held a telephone conversation today with Ms. Ursula von der Leyen, the Minister of Defense of Germany. During the telephone conversation, President Barzani and Minister von der Leyen discussed the political situation in the Kurdistan Region and Iraq especially the recent events.

Minister von der Leyen stated that she is pleased of the de-escalation of tensions between the Iraqi and Peshmerga forces. She also expressed her appreciation and respect to the Peshmerga forces for the role that is being played in the international effort against the terrorists of the Islamic State. She added by saying that Germany will continue to support the Peshmerga forces. The conversation was concluded by the minister's notes on the importance of negotiations with Baghdad and Erbil to resolve the outstanding issues.

 

http://presidency.kr...d=/pwdtChNoSQ=#

 

 

considering the ongoing coalition haggling for a new government in Germany and the very contrary postiions of the parties involved this remains to be seen.


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