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#5661 JasonJ

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 1935 PM

I don't think Naomi Osaka can even speak Japanese so her image of representing Japan in sports sort of feels overplayed but Japan sponsership back and fostered her training from what I can gather and I don't think most people mind. Nobu and his family comes as nl surprise. But Sani Brown and Yu Darvish speak Japanese fluently.

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#5662 Nobu

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 2314 PM

Pushback of the cultural appropriation type from the Black community against Japanese hip hop fandom has been limited to nonexistent in my observation of it. Instead, the response to it seems to be acknowledgement of a level of respect being shown by it.

The contrast with levels of pushback against others doing it is interesting.
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#5663 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0153 AM

 

 

 

 

Boris Johnson

 

Just for you Stuart. ^_^ :P

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Tony, one day your unique brand of humour is going to get you locked up in the Tower. :D

 

 

Stu, until mememaking becomes forbidden or subject to a licence, i'll sit snugg as a bug and churn'em out by the dozen. :P

 

 

 

Wont be long now under the 4th Reich. :)

 

Finnish PM says 12 days to the Finish! Yeah, right.

 

https://www.bbc.co.u...litics-49749465

 

Boris Johnson has 12 days to set out his Brexit plans to the EU, according to Finland's prime minister.

Antti Rinne said he and French President Emmanuel Macron agreed the UK needed to produce the proposals in writing by the end of September, adding if not, "then it's over".

Finland currently holds the EU's rotating presidency.

A Downing Street source said: "We will continue negotiating and put forward proposals at the appropriate time."

Mr Johnson has said a deal is possible at a crucial summit of EU leaders on 17 October, but he has insisted Brexit will happen by the 31 October deadline, even if a deal is not agreed.


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#5664 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0216 AM

https://www.independ...s-a9110076.html

Australian citizens could get freedom of movement rights denied to EU nationals after Brexit, international trade secretary Liz Truss has suggested.

Speaking during a visit to Canberra, Ms Truss said that the relaxation of visa requirements for Australian nationals wanting to live and work in the UK would “certainly” be looked at as part of negotiations on a new trade deal.

Home secretary Priti Patel was forced to back away from plans to end EU citizens’ rights to settle and work in the UK immediately if a no-deal Brexit goes ahead on 31 October.

But EU nationals resident in the UK are being told to apply for settled status by the end of 2020 in order to be able to remain without a visa.

At a press conference with Australian trade minister Simon Birmingham, Ms Truss was asked by reporters about a possible freedom of movement proposal which would relax current requirements for Australian nationals.

 

She replied: "We've been clear on the fact we want to adopt the Australian-based points system in terms of our new immigration system as we leave the European Union. We've recently made an announcement that we’re extending the work period after foreign students come to the UK for two years.

"But of course, our two countries have a special link and a historic relationship, and it's certainly something that we will be looking at as part of our free trade negotiations."

Ms Truss said: “We want a fully comprehensive trade deal that reflects our deep, ongoing relationship, the friendship between our two countries, the fact that Australians want to come and live and work in Britain, and Brits want to come and live and work in Australia.

 

“Leaving the European Union really does give us a chance as a country to become more outward-looking, to become more competitive, and to deepen our links with our partners right across the world.

“The reason that I’ve chosen to make Australia one of the first countries I’ve visited as trade secretary is this is an absolute priority for me to get on with this trade deal.”


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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0533 AM

Sargon of Akkad fancies that he is important to British politics because he has many YouTube subscribers.

That most people who can vote in UK political elections haven't heard of him, and that the bulk of his subscribers seem to be American suggests that he may over estimate his importance.

His only appearances in the UK media are related to his abortive election campaign, which seems to have been designed specifically to bait the lefties and gain publicity and support from those subscribers.

For me he fits into the smart enough to manipulate certain groups into giving him a living category. Sort of a political PewDiePie.
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#5666 Harold Jones

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0703 AM

So he's pretty much like any of the other "Influencers" on social media.  Famous in his smallish pond but still more likely than not to elicit a "who?" if mentioned in day to day conversation. 


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#5667 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0804 AM

I am afraid to ask what a PewDiePie is.


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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0810 AM

I am afraid to ask what a PewDiePie is.


A guy who makes money on YouTube. Lots.
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#5669 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0817 AM

I am afraid to ask what a PewDiePie is.

 

I imagine its something like a Creampie, but more degrading.

 

(edit, well, I guess I wasnt THAT far wrong then :D)

 

https://www.independ...r-a9111756.html

The EU has set Britain a test it “cannot meet” with its demands to see a replacement for the Irish backstop, the Brexit Secretary has said.

Stephen Barclay said the UK should be given another year to find a new policy for the Northern Ireland border.

“We are told the UK must provide legally operative text by the 31st October,” the cabinet minister said in a speech in Madrid on Thursday.

“Yet the alternative to the backstop is not necessary until the end of the Implementation Period in December 2020.

“And this will be shaped by the future relationship – which is still to be determined.


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#5670 rmgill

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0905 AM

Sargon of Akkad fancies that he is important to British politics because he has many YouTube subscribers.

That most people who can vote in UK political elections haven't heard of him, and that the bulk of his subscribers seem to be American suggests that he may over estimate his importance.

His only appearances in the UK media are related to his abortive election campaign, which seems to have been designed specifically to bait the lefties and gain publicity and support from those subscribers.

For me he fits into the smart enough to manipulate certain groups into giving him a living category. Sort of a political PewDiePie.

 

Normies who don't look at stuff on the internet and still turn on BBC2 or Sky (etc) for the daily news take I'll bet. There's this big shift away from conventional TV. Older folks still adhere to TV's. Younger folks are absorbing their media a different way. One can easily look at examples of Jordan Peterson's videos and the attention they've gathered. Tim Pool is another good example. Youtube is currently trying to help prop up old media. 

One can easily look at Neislens ratings for conventional TV shows, compare them to the viewer count on Youtube videos and notice that there's a giant sucking sound that's making my corporate management unhappy. Just because you're unaware of something doesn't mean it's not there and that it's a factor. 


Oh and PewDiePie was large enough to be noticed by both Disney AND Youtube and monetized until they didn't like some of his irreverent humor. 

 


I am afraid to ask what a PewDiePie is.

 

 

Think George Carlin except Swedish and not doing Standup on stage but rather on videos on Youtube. He's very silly, not my sort of thing at all. But He's basically had a very large block of viewers on youtube for long enough for Disney to notice.
 

​(From wikipedia) As of August 2019, the channel has received over 100 million subscribers and 23 billion video views, ranking as the second-most subscribed and eleventh-most viewed on the platform.

He's been big since 2016, large enough for the New York Times to notice as well. 

Big media is desperate to leverage the internet for moneymaking. That independents with ZERO backing can gain 100 Million viewers is nothing at all to scoff at. 


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#5671 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 0910 AM

There is a trend for newer generations (and the media machine such as google facilitates this) to look for the media that reinforces what you already believe. It takes sheer effort to search out alternatives to your opinion and run with it.

 

Well I did try with Sargon, and I find him impossible to listen to. I did try with RT and found the videodrome mind control waves impossible to deal with. So Im as contrary and opinionated as everyone else I guess.


Edited by Stuart Galbraith, 20 September 2019 - 0155 AM.

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#5672 Chris Werb

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 1601 PM

For me he fits into the smart enough to manipulate certain groups into giving him a living category. Sort of a political PewDiePie.

 

He's just another PayPal patriot.


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0231 AM

Only tangentially related to Brexit, but it does illustrate what self serving shit's the Brexit party really are.

 

https://www.independ...e-a9112696.html

Brexit Party MEPs abstained from voting on a European Parliament resolution on Thursday which called on Iran to release imprisoned EU-Iranian nationals, including British citizen Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

The resolution called on Iranian authorities to “immediately and unconditionally” release all dual-nationals and human rights campaigners jailed as political prisoners.

As well as naming Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe, who has been imprisoned in Iran since April 2016, the resolution also named EU citizens Ahmadreza Djalali and Kamran Ghaderi, who are also being held in Iran.

Despite the Brexit Party’s abstention, the resolution was passed by 608 votes. Seven opposed and 46 abstained.

The Brexit Party has 29 MEPs.

 

 

 

Returning to the prorogation,

 

https://www.standard...e-a4241361.html

 

MPs could be blocked for almost another month from challenging Brexit plans even if Boris Johnson loses the Supreme Court battle over his suspension of Parliament, it was claimed today. 

The Prime Minister is currently locked in a legal battle over his controversial decision to prorogue Parliament for five weeks, facing claims he wanted to shut down debate and scrutiny ahead of a no-deal Brexit. 

In unprecedented scenes, Mr Johnson was accused by former prime minister John Major’s legal representative in court of hiding the truth about the reasons for suspending Parliament and dodging the hearing to “isolate himself from challenge”. 

Campaigner Gina Miller, backed by Sir John, has challenged the prorogation in the English courts and Scottish judges found it was unlawful, sparking the high profile Supreme Court stand-off which is now into its final day.

 

But a legal document drafted overnight and made public this morning, reveals the prorogation may not end even if Mr Johnson loses the court fight. “The court may find that the advice was unlawful, but its reasoning leaves open the possibility of a lawful decision to prorogue for a period of the same length or for a period of the same length or for a period longer than that which has already elapsed at the date of the order,” said a document agreed by some of the lawyers in the case. 

Another option for the court is to declare the prorogation unlawful and decide the Queen should bring forward the convening of Parliament.

 

However, a third option — in the event of the Prime Minister losing — is for judges to declare that Parliament has actually remained in session, giving the government the chance to seek a fresh prorogation. 

 

The document emerged when one of the lawyers in the case, Jolyon Maugham QC, posted it on Twitter. A No 10 source said the papers were being wrongly interpreted by critics of the Government. “We will comply with the court and we will do what we need to do to get a Queen’s Speech,” said the source, “The only way you can have a Queen’s Speech is by ending a session of Parliament.”


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0350 AM


For me he fits into the smart enough to manipulate certain groups into giving him a living category. Sort of a political PewDiePie.

 
He's just another PayPal patriot.
Nice alliteration.
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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0355 AM

In other news, look at the trend chart here


https://yougov.co.uk...-18-sept-update

Brexit party is spent, because Brexit oriented Tories love bojo, and Corbyn is being eaten alive by lib Dems going back to the centre after deserting Clegg over the Cameron coalition.

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#5676 Chris Werb

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0645 AM

Only tangentially related to Brexit, but it does illustrate what self serving shit's the Brexit party really are.

 

 

 

See, we CAN agree on something occasionally! :)


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 0243 AM

https://metro.co.uk/...atson-10782718/

Brexit could claim another political scalp as Tom Watson faces being ousted as the deputy leader of the Labour party. The Remainer has clashed with leader Jeremy Corbyn over the party’s stance on leaving the EU. A move will now be debated at the party’s annual conference to ditch the position of deputy leader and sources expect the attempt to succeed. It is understood the motion has been tabled by Jon Lansman, founder of Labour grassroots group Momentum. The campaign group was set up to support Mr Corbyn’s leadership of the party. MPs have said the move is ‘outrageous’ and that they should concentrate their efforts on fighting Boris Johnson and the Tory party. Mr Watson has been at odds with Mr Corbyn and has been pushing for Labour to back staying in the European Union in any future referendum. He recently called for a new Brexit referendum to be held before a general election. Mr Corbyn has said an election should come first while he has refused to say which side he might back in a future Brexit referendum.

 

Watson has been a thorn in the side of Corbyn's leadership for some time. He has opposed the flip floppy 'we will leave, or perhaps we wont' position of Corbyn, and has demanded a referendum and a commitment to remain. Largely because I suspect he can see (and I think he would be right to see it that way) Labour is going to hemorrhage all the remain vote to the Liberals, leaving it quite possibly as the third party. Corbyn is trying to keep the remain and leave camps on board, and its looking increasingly untenable.

 

Watson was attempted to be removed by a guy whom was part of 'Momentum', a political group in Labour dedicated to supporting Jeremy Corbyn (and has its hand in such unsavory pies as purging moderate Labour MP's, and supporting antisemite MP's). Corbyn denies he knew anything about it, although of course, he would say that.

 

The irony of this is that Conservative right wing MP's have more in common on Brexit with a Trotskyist than they do the moderate wing of their own party. Yes, Brexit is that insane.


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 1045 AM

Called off as Corbyn realised any remaining new labourites would go lib dem immediately.
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Posted 21 September 2019 - 1057 AM

Yeah. The Trots are really not very smart people are they?


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 1114 AM

 

For me he fits into the smart enough to manipulate certain groups into giving him a living category. Sort of a political PewDiePie.

 

He's just another PayPal patriot.

 

Vs the buffoons at the Beeb who get the British public to be their benefactors?  ;)


 

 

 


Only tangentially related to Brexit, but it does illustrate what self serving shit's the Brexit party really are.

And everyone else in British or European Politics is in it for the good of the nation and not at all into it for the benefits it brings them right?

Has anyone had the novel idea to ask why they may have abstained? Perhaps there was something wrong with that vote or the actual substance of the bill in question? Perhaps there was a better one? I know it's a radical idea but instead of going off half cocked, maybe dig a bit further? I know I know, it fits your narrative. 

Because it's pretty clear from actual substance of the European - Iranian politics that the EU is VERY much into policy directions with Iran for their own reasons and not for the reasons beneficial to all in the region. We've seen this substantively since the 70s and how often the EU is willing to play ball with Iran or Iraq. 


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