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#5121 Hakka

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 2213 PM

The layout of this part of the ERA in the T-90MS tower, looks similar to the one in the side skirts.

 

http://imgur.com/a/27c4O

 

http://imgur.com/a/F2hcv

 

 

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Very interesting. The hexagonal boxes on the roof of the T-90A are similar in layout as well.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 2233 PM

In fact, it seems to me that the hexagonal blocks are thicker

 

http://imgur.com/a/X7GGn

 

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 0112 AM

A bit thicker, I guess, but identical in construction. Thick front plate with paper thin sides and bottom. This is the style of Kontakt-5, which propels its flyer plate forwards, toward the attacking projectile. Relikt propels two flyer plates in opposite directions, forwards and backwards. I suspect that the roof ERA on the T-90MS fully adheres to this principle. As you can see, there is more space underneath the boxes than underneath the hexagonal boxes on the T-90 roof. This space is probably for the backwards flyer plate.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 0512 AM

 

 

 Also note the crowd watching the "fight" :P

Crowd was not only watching but actively taking part, throwing stones etc trying to turn elephant  back to zoo but only making him more angry.  Finally, elephant  was finished by group of soldiers firing AKs  - sad story, result of neglect to some extent since for years elephant was allowed to walk freely outside zoo in the evenings to eat green leafs (zoo ration was not enough, but nobody cared to increase it by bureaucratic means), was used to help push cars and lorries uphill etc. treated like small pet, not dangerous animal.

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Elephants are so gentle animals. And usually easy to domesticate. The indian kind at least.

Killed by administrative ignorance. :(

 

 

Yes, quite sad.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 0044 AM

This is interesting...there are two US reports that say between 20-25 Syrian T-72s were destroyed by the IDF during the war in 1982...

 

 

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 0258 AM

Wasnt this the incident that was talked about at the time, of a Helo ambush? Im sure ive read about this somewhere before.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 0620 AM

Just TOW on jeeps ambushing column on march.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 0737 AM

Just TOW on jeeps ambushing column on march.

 

Yes, you are right. It involved a unit of paratroopers with  jeep mounted  TOW or MAPATS.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 1436 PM

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 2154 PM

 

Just TOW on jeeps ambushing column on march.

 

Yes, you are right. It involved a unit of paratroopers with  jeep mounted  TOW or MAPATS.

 

 

Yes, this is that same famous engagement...the interesting part here is the number of reported KO'd T-72s. While this has been discussed by many military-related news sources and forums over the years, I've never seen the number of KO'd T-72s so high. 


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 2216 PM

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 1131 AM

Not sure if this was posted already, but a photo of the new T-90M has come out:

 

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 1248 PM

Just TOW on jeeps ambushing column on march.

 
Yes, you are right. It involved a unit of paratroopers with  jeep mounted  TOW or MAPATS.
 
Yes, this is that same famous engagement...the interesting part here is the number of reported KO'd T-72s. While this has been discussed by many military-related news sources and forums over the years, I've never seen the number of KO'd T-72s so high.
Hi Jim,
The illustration (amongst others) of the incident, originally appeared years ago on one of the Israeli military forums, probably "Fresh". There was a detailed account by one of the participants, itemising the fate of the T72s and which Tow launcher took it out. Unfortunately I can't find it. If there is a native Hebrew speaker who can search the forum, that would be brilliant.
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Posted 24 March 2017 - 1411 PM

New, 1000hp modification of T-72


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 1451 PM

Nice shot of Czech T-72M4CZ to anounce the variant. Anyway, not that modern. No panoramic camera and it seems that ERA is still Kontakt-5. Other vehicles tested have extra armour on the sides.

 

UVZ has been very conservative regarding T-72 upgrades. Maybe because Russian Army could not afford anything until recently. 1000HP engines, Sosna-U and Relikt have been used/available for years.

 

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 1455 PM

Nice shot of Czech T-72M4CZ to anounce the variant. Anyway, not that modern. No panoramic camera and it seems that ERA is still Kontakt-5. Other vehicles tested have extra armour on the sides.

 

UVZ has been very conservative regarding T-72 upgrades. Maybe because Russian Army could not afford anything until recently. 1000HP engines, Sosna-U and Relikt have been used/available for years.

 

 

You can't say so easily is it K5 or Relict. In this boxes could fit both 4S23 and 4S24 modules. Only thing that can be said is that old and shitty placement of boxes has retained.
Also engine itself is interesting. Why not proposed much earlier 1130hp engine? 


Edited by GARGEAN, 24 March 2017 - 1500 PM.

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 1508 PM

Also engine itself is interesting. Why not proposed much earlier 1130hp engine?

 

1.000HP engine has been produced in large quantities and should be more affordable. If I understant correctly the 1130HP uses a new transmission, so that would also be needed. In ay case, it is good enough for former Soviet region. Ukrainians are using 1980s T-64BV without upgrades.

 

In this boxes could fit both 4S23 and 4S24 modules.

 

Yes, they can be interchanged but all sources state that it is still using Kontakt-5.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 1522 PM

Yes, they can be interchanged but all sources state that it is still using Kontakt-5.

 

There are extimations that 4S23 modules was left only in oldest T-90 and T-80U, while 90A and 72B3 has received 4S24 for some time already. Only speculations, trought.


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 2304 PM

Is there any detailed information on the transmission of Object 187?


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 2357 PM

A new transmission with better reverse is sorely needed. Those B3s have the T-90MS skirts but no bar armor to the rear. Russia has enough T-72s to keep itself and clients supplied for a while but how will they retain Omsk as a second capability?


Edited by Simon Tan, 27 March 2017 - 0001 AM.

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