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#1 exT70

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 0234 AM

There was a discussion some months ago on T72’s purchased by previous South African Regime during the late 80’s (during the international arms embargo). Vehicles were said to have been sourced (new) from Poland and the question was asked what happened to them. Spotted this one at the recent AAD exhibition in Cape Town, South Africa.
It is an upgrade by ATE and the following is claimed by ATE (and I quote):
“ATE’s upgrade enhances the mission envelope of the host main battle tank to 3rd generation capability.
Features:
- Full day/night capabilities for crew and driver
- Improved 1st round hit probability
- Field proven capability to engage moving targets while on the move.
- Enhanced crew combat efficiency
- Improved battlefield survivability
- Coincidence firing
- Muzzle Reference System (MRS)
- OEM interface
• Retention of electro-hydraulic stabilisation
• Retention of legacy systems”

Couple of photo's to follow.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 0237 AM

Couple of photo's to follow.

Glacis Front
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5478.jpg

Fender Front
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5476.jpg

New display inside
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5496.jpg

Breech
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5495.jpg

Breech and turret inside
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5494.jpg

Drivers’
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5484.jpg

Sighthead
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5479.jpg
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 0328 AM

Sighthead
http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5479.jpg

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Can the TC's sight rotate full angles?
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 0413 AM

- Improved battlefield survivability

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Why?
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#5 alejandro_

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 0644 AM

Some general info on the upgrade:

http://www.ate-aeros...le_Brochure.pdf

Very general, it doesn't give much useful data.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 1101 AM

Can the TC's sight rotate full angles?

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Don’t know. System on display was not switched on at the time. Would however hope so. I attach four more pics of sights, both of which are similar, one being “covered” by rotating back.

http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5483.jpg

http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5482.jpg

http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5481.jpg

http://i99.photobuck...70/DSCF5480.jpg
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 1103 AM

Why?

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Would assume (with assumption being the mother of all @#$ups), as I’m neither the author of the poster/brochure, nor familiar with ATE or their claims, that improved battlefield survivability is a natural product of:

- “Full day/night capabilities for crew and driver” (and therefore improved SA) (I could however not see anything new re: the driver’s periscopes)
- “Improved 1st round hit probability”
- “Field proven capability to engage moving targets while on the move.”
- “Enhanced crew combat efficiency”

I however have no personal knowledge of the vehicle’s abilities.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 1116 AM

Would assume (with assumption being the mother of all @#$ups), as I’m neither the author of the poster/brochure, nor familiar with ATE or their claims, that improved battlefield survivability is a natural product of:

- “Full day/night capabilities for crew and driver” (and therefore improved SA) (I could however not see anything new re: the driver’s periscopes)
-  “Improved 1st round hit probability”
-  “Field proven capability to engage moving targets while on the move.”
-  “Enhanced crew combat efficiency”

I however have no personal knowledge of the vehicle’s abilities.

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Thanks, but in my understanding battlefield survivability is improved protection, but I did not seen no evidences of it on South African upgrade variant.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 1126 AM

Why?

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Maybe the new sighting system increase the tank crew's SA and then give some help to improve battlefield survivability. :D
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 1227 PM

Thats one huge sight! How do they expect to get T-72 export customers, well substantial ones anyway, sign up for it, when current trend is to shoehorn newer sights into T series tanks without cutting the armour or compromising it in anyway? Those sights are also very visible & large.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 1419 PM

Looks like some one dusted off (literally. that tank needs a bath and some paint) a project from the late 80s early 90s.

I can't see anyone buying this unless they are super cheap and they are super poor. There are much better FCS upgrades available.
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