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#1821 JasonJ

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 1156 AM

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#1822 JasonJ

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 1156 AM

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 1159 AM

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#1824 JasonJ

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 1202 PM

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#1825 JasonJ

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 1205 PM

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#1826 JasonJ

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 1044 AM

Rebiya Kadeer talking about the suppression in Xinjiang again. Jails full of 1,000s of Uyghurs including women and children, Mosques being demolished as part of new policy, Uyghur families are forced to make relationship with Han Chinese family, Uyghur boys and girls are forced into marriage with Han Chinese, resistance is of course meet with punishment, new police stations every 300 meters with new checking system, Uyghurs are easily killed by Chinese police, jailed if try to assemble or speak back, Chinese collected Uyghur passports and Uyghurs that apply for passports are question by the Chinese police, cameras and computers searched for, and so on.

 

Earlier visits by her.

http://www.tank-net....61#entry1245204

http://www.tank-net....38#entry1202052

 

 

President Lobsang Sangay of Tibetan in-exile government explains Tibet "middle way" path of recognizing China's sovereignty and boundary integration over Tibetan area but just asking for genuine autonomy and right to Tibetan language that is written in Chinese law to be realized. Despite not going contrary to the One-China policy, China still doesn't give. So Sangay continues to hope for continued international support for Tibet's middle approach. He finished with Chinese expansion happens in Tibet first, then happens to other later. China occupied Tibet in 1959, now have 5 military airbases, 30 airbases, natural resources resources, and so on. China declared Marshall law in response to the Tianamen Square protests in 1989, but Marshall law was declared in Tibet in that year first, in March. And now China is asserting claims on the Senkaku islands and South China Sea, now building air bases in SCS. Hacking malware that China conducts to other countries was first used in Tibet. India was at first not concerned with the Chinese takeover of Tibet in 1959 but now they see the Chinese moving into Pakistan, Nepal, and Bangladesh. So he asserts that China's expansion activities first happen in Tibet and then will happen later elsewhere.

 

 

An earlier post on him.

http://www.tank-net....31#entry1190866


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#1827 Roman Alymov

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 1121 AM

Rebiya Kadeer talking about the suppression in Xinjiang again. Jails full of 1,000s of Uyghurs including women and children, Mosques being demolished as part of new policy, Uyghur families are forced to make relationship with Han Chinese family, Uyghur boys and girls are forced into marriage with Han Chinese, resistance is of course meet with punishment, new police stations every 300 meters with new checking system, Uyghurs are easily killed by Chinese police, jailed if try to assemble or speak back, Chinese collected Uyghur passports and Uyghurs that apply for passports are question by the Chinese police, cameras and computers searched for, and so on.

 

Interesting hat she is wearing is also wide spread in Russia (and also among Central Asia nations), in different forms. Russian name for it is “Tubeteika” (from Turk word “Tube” = the top, the mountain top) Even was in general fashion in 1950th.

Volga Tatar form
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Uzbek form (square, sewed ornament is presenting hot paprika to repel level spirits
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Girls usually wear bright colors
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#1828 JasonJ

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 1206 PM

Stalin invaded the Xinjiang area in China in 1934, used gas mustard gas there too. Just 1 year after doing Holodomor in the Ukraine. Rebiya probably doesn't want to associate her hat with the Russia Stronk! sentiment. Go make a hat thread in the FFZ if you care so into hats, regardless if you sencerely care about hats or if you just want to dilute the content of the thread to make comrade CCP look less bad.


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#1829 Roman Alymov

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 1221 PM

Stalin invaded the Xinjiang area in China in 1934, used gas mustard gas there too. Just 1 year after doing Holodomor in the Ukraine. Rebiya probably doesn't want to associate her hat with the Russia Stronk! sentiment. Go make a hat thread in the FFZ if you care so into hats, regardless if you sencerely care about hats or if you just want to dilute the content of the thread to make comrade CCP look less bad.

Calm down, I am just pointing out how closely linked China affairs are to one in Central Asia, Russia, Turkey etc.  – and ethnic hats are very graphic indication of it. If you got personal war with “comrade CCP” – it is up to you (in reality they are group of rich capitalists with kids in Eton and money in banks across the globe, so no difference from Wall Street, no need to go so far to fight them)


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#1830 JasonJ

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 1226 PM

 

Stalin invaded the Xinjiang area in China in 1934, used gas mustard gas there too. Just 1 year after doing Holodomor in the Ukraine. Rebiya probably doesn't want to associate her hat with the Russia Stronk! sentiment. Go make a hat thread in the FFZ if you care so into hats, regardless if you sencerely care about hats or if you just want to dilute the content of the thread to make comrade CCP look less bad.

Calm down, I am just pointing out how closely linked China affairs are to one in Central Asia, Russia, Turkey etc.  – and ethnic hats are very graphic indication of it. If you got personal war with “comrade CCP” – it is up to you (in reality they are group of rich capitalists with kids in Eton and money in banks across the globe, so no difference from Wall Street, no need to go so far to fight them)

 

 

I quit TN now.


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#1831 bojan

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 1352 PM

Ragequit?


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#1832 Roman Alymov

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 0807 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-15/china-s-holdings-of-treasuries-dropped-in-2016-by-most-on-record "China's Holdings of Treasuries Dropped in 2016 by Most on Record"


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#1833 Josh

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 1145 AM

They are busy manipulating their currency.
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#1834 Nobu

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 1333 PM

Central Asians, a fascinating people. Putin actually looks good in that hat. Am starting to read a bit about central asian independence movements, as it seems the Chinese are having more difficulty with their version of Central Asian Lives Matter than the USSR did.

 

China's vulnerabilities are internal, and actively working toward the goal of fracturing of it along central asian independence lines would be a logical first step in balkanizing China into a Chinese Federation rump state.

 

The South China Sea situation on the other hand, as I have said from the beginning, is an external approach and destined to fail.

 

Monty's Rules of War: Don't invade the stretch of beach near the Pas de Calais garrisoned by the 1st SS LAH. Don't go fighting with your land armies (i.e., the South China Sea external approach) in China.


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#1835 Roman Alymov

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 1346 PM

Central Asians, a fascinating people. Putin actually looks good in that hat. Am starting to read a bit about central asian independence movements, as it seems the Chinese are having more difficulty with their version of Central Asian Lives Matter than the USSR did.

 

China's vulnerabilities are internal, and actively working toward the goal of fracturing of it along central asian independence lines would be a logical first step in balkanizing China into a Chinese Federation rump state.

Attempt to fracture China along central asian independence lines is likely to cause rise of Islam radicalism (since West is no more able to propose attractive ideology, and Communism is gone – so Islam will fill in the vacuum, and unlikely to be traditional moderate Islam). From Russian point of view it is very dangerous way to go, since it is people on our streets. There are millions of Central Asians in Russia – some migrant workers, some already citizens, and radicalizing them is not what we want.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 1349 PM

Impressive amount of interesting newsfeed in the Bloomberg treasuries link above.

 

The Yen to Dollar exchange rate in 1985: 240-1. The Yen to Dollar exchange rate in 1988: 130-1. Economists theorize this currency intervention, negotiated by the United States on the crest of anti-Japanese populism, caused Japan's lost quarter century of economic stagnation.

 

The Bloomberg interview with billionaire Charles Munger was also fascinating. A snippet:

 

On Wednesday, Munger took questions about India and China, which have more than 1 billion people each and account for about a third of the world’s population. He was asked about efforts in India, the world’s largest democracy, to encourage entrepreneurship with market reforms.

 

"India is grossly defective because they took the worst aspects of our culture, allowing a bunch of idiots to scream and stop everything. And they copied it,” Munger said. “They’ve taken the worst aspects of democracy.” He said the Indians he knows are “fabulous people” but that the country struggles with corruption.

 

"The Chinese government really tries to help its companies," Munger said, contrasting that with India. “What I like about China is they have some companies that are very strong and still selling at low prices. And the Chinese are formidable workers and they make wonderful employees.”

 

Still, for Munger, there is that issue with gambling.

 

“They actually believe in luck,” he said. “That is stupid. You want to believe in odds.”


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 1412 PM

>From Russian point of view it is very dangerous way to go, since it is people on our streets. There are millions of Central Asians in Russia – some migrant workers, some already citizens, and radicalizing them is not what we want.

 

Radicalizing their Chinese counterparts should be what Washington wants, however. The cost/benefit potential is high, and the likelihood of blowback to America from supporting various anti-Chinese Central Asian independence radicalization movements, apart from the trickle of Uighur jihadists bent on killing and raping for Allah to the Middle East, appears to be minimal.

 

As far as the welfare and submission of Central Asian women under the radicalized form of Sharia law that hopefully replaces Chinese imperial rule, it may be time for the first world to finally understand that thirdworlders may actually prefer social systems featuring the dehumanization/submission of large numbers of their women. The world's largest democracy, India, may be considered an example of this.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 1436 PM

Interesting to see a Krug like system in the Spratlys


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#1839 Roman Alymov

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 0310 AM

 

Radicalizing their Chinese counterparts should be what Washington wants, however. The cost/benefit potential is high, and the likelihood of blowback to America from supporting various anti-Chinese Central Asian independence radicalization movements, apart from the trickle of Uighur jihadists bent on killing and raping for Allah to the Middle East, appears to be minimal.

 

It is the shortest way to push Russia into close military alliance with China. If West want to play “contain China” game – let them have it on remote pacific islands or Asian coast, not on Russian streets. We already have this problem – for example yesterday four Yzbeks were arrested on Sakhalin (!) for attempt to go to join ISIS.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 0513 AM

Bye!


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