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#3741 Simon Tan

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0629 AM

Ghetto Shtora?


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0832 AM

Video of Turkish SPGs firing from Turkish border guards base into Syria

 

 

 

Interesting to see something the British Army discarded fifty years ago still very much in service in Turkey. I guess they could even be some of the same vehicles, transferred by the US?

 

http://www.army-guid...roduct3723.html

 

http://s123.photobuc...t1_001.jpg.html

 

The upgrade of M52s to 155m was news to me.

 

http://www.military-...illery/m52t.htm


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0845 AM

155L39....good enough.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0846 AM

It sounds as if they're not exactly the same as the original M44 & M52. New engines, new electrics, upgraded suspension, new ordnance . . .  Pretty much new SPGs on old hulls.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0851 AM

1956 - there was an earlier Act that might have had an effect though. More here:

 

https://en.wikipedia...an_Air_Act_1956


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0851 AM

1956 - there was an earlier Act that might have had an effect though. More here:

 

https://en.wikipedia...an_Air_Act_1956


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0901 AM

The same device on BMP-1

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0901 AM

On T-55

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0909 AM

Ghetto Shtora?

Yes this source http://imp-navigator...com/418995.htmlinsist it is improvised IR jammer


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0925 AM

So something bolt on to keep the TOWs off them. Makes sense; that's probably the number 1 threat against armor right now.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0930 AM

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0941 AM

Interesting as well are the ammunition cartridges stowed on and around the outside of the turret.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 0949 AM

 

Strange device on tank

 

Interesting as well are the ammunition cartridges stowed on and around the outside of the turret.

 

It is not ammunition cartridges but 125mm propellant charges boxes, probably filled with sand adf used to fill in the gaps in reactive armor. .


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 1240 PM

Another video of T-90 in action (note optical IR jamming system not activated and covered by covers)

 


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 1315 PM

That is nw of Aleppo...near Bakshoy. 4th Mech and Hezbollah fighting to reach the Shia enclaves of Zahar and Nubl. Nice arty.
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Posted 02 February 2016 - 1317 PM

It is not ammunition cartridges but 125mm propellant charges boxes, probably filled with sand adf used to fill in the gaps in reactive armor. .

  
Or filled with 125mm propellant charges.  

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 1329 PM

 

It is not ammunition cartridges but 125mm propellant charges boxes, probably filled with sand adf used to fill in the gaps in reactive armor. .

  
Or filled with 125mm propellant charges.  

 

It is also possible (especially if crew want to keep as much ammo as possible at hand but not want extra unprotected powder inside the tank) – but it is also likely to be sand or extra water for hygiene use. No way to know by photo. But distribution looks as if they tried to cover unprotected gaps.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 1332 PM


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 1613 PM

I must say, a couple of years ago, who would have ever thought seeing vids entitled "Hezbollah fires Tochka missiles on terrorists Syria"...


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 1637 PM

It is also possible (especially if crew want to keep as much ammo as possible at hand but not want extra unprotected powder inside the tank) – but it is also likely to be sand or extra water for hygiene use. No way to know by photo. But distribution looks as if they tried to cover unprotected gaps.

 

Could be, but your video shows another tank with a couple of them laying on the back deck.  So I'm going with them being propellant.


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