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#1 X-Files

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1239 PM

Police searched a villa in a wealthy suburb of Kiel on Wednesday and found a Second World War tank, a torpedo and other weaponry in the cellar. On Thursday they were still working on removing the tank.

The raid took place in the town of Heikendorf under the instruction of Kiel prosecutors, who suspect that the villa's owner held the weaponry in illegally under a law controlling the possession of instruments of war.

As well as the tank and the torpedo, several other weapons of war were found.

The Kiel prosecutor would not give The Local any details as to the specifics of the historical arsenal when contacted.

But a police spokesperson informed The Local that a torpedo had been removed from the building on Wednesday. He could not confirm whether it was a Second World War model. 

He also said that by Thursday afternoon they had still not managed to remove the 1943-vintage Panther, despite the Bundeswehr (German army) sending modern recovery tanks of its own - designed to haul damaged battle tanks off the field - to help remove it.

 

http://www.thelocal....idden-in-cellar


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#2 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1245 PM

that wasn't a secret, lots of people knew about it.

If it's the same chap I am thinking of it was available for viewing by appointment if you knew the right people


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#3 Garry Redmon

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1246 PM

Sounds like Herr Frick.


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#4 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1320 PM

Last I heard it ran, why not just drive it out?


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#5 Mike Steele

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1326 PM

Last I heard it ran, why not just drive it out?

More important, is it for sale?


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#6 Colin

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1327 PM

Because the bureaucrats would not think to ask if it ran. Even if it did they would require someone with the proper drivers license for a Panther. I sense a court case in the making.


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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1406 PM

they had still not managed to remove the 1943-vintage Panther, despite the Bundeswehr (German army) sending modern recovery tanks of its own - designed to haul damaged battle tanks off the field - to remove it.


That's their problem, they should send a proper Bergepanther (if they don't have one, 3 x SdKfz9 should do the job).
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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1409 PM

Even better, they could modify that Panther to a Bergepanther and have it recover itself!
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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1415 PM

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1424 PM

I've been looking for an English-language report on this all day. Yes, the Panther wasn't exactly a secret; neighbors are quoted with saying this guy named only as Klaus-Dieter F. was driving it through town when it was the only vehicle that could after a blizzard back in 1978, and once helped somebody pulling out treestumps with it. Reports also say he sometimes sold a couple torpedos, went out on the Kieler Förde inlet with a Schwimmwagen, and among his collection had an AA and/or AT gun as well as a V-1.

 

He showed up on the radar of authorities recently when they got a tip that he had some long-lost Nazi art, namely "The Wehrmacht" by Arno Breker which was sculpted for Hitler's chancellery in 1939. This was part of a national bust that also turned up some giant bronze horses from the Nuremburg rally grounds by Josef Thorak and other bigger-than-life sculptures. They had been missing since the end of the war; as it turns out they languished on various Soviet bases in East Germany, where they were found and bought for something like a couple thousand mark per deal by enterprising West German businessmen who proceeded to sell them on for a couple million.

 

However, the German government claims ownership to the stuff, and the thing unraveled over the last months after a private art investigator from the Netherlands posed as an interested buyer. The art raids were in late May, but the first reports of "tank found in basement" only appeared yesterday. His attorney says it's all demilled and legal, but today they started dragging it out; the Bundeswehr sent two AEVs for the Panther which seemed wedged into an inconvenient spot. Since the last sightings in the wild date back 20 years, it's probably no longer a runner (pictures show it without tracks), but they eventually managed.

 

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1502 PM

I hope they didn't damage it during the recovery effort; looks really to be in amazing condition.  That's one tank which must surely have quite an amazing history attached to it. 


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Posted 02 July 2015 - 1751 PM

Funny, I came across the German reports after the English

 

http://www.ndr.de/na...onsfund124.html

 

http://www.welt.de/b...Heikendorf.html


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#13 Mr King

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0109 AM

Smells like government bureaucrat fuckery. 

 

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Edited by Mr King, 03 July 2015 - 0110 AM.

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0126 AM

Calling Dirk Pitt, some more things to his collection!


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0232 AM

Reports also say he sometimes sold a couple torpedos, went out on the Kieler Förde inlet with a Schwimmwagen, and among his collection had an AA and/or AT gun as well as a V-1.

 

Okay, so it's a good old 8.8.

 

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#16 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0717 AM

government

It takes your stuff...


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#17 shep854

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0724 AM

Id love to see him take that into Kwik fit for a new tire. :)

Or an oil change... ^_^


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#18 Przezdzieblo

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0731 AM

- Hello, can I have five gallons of oil for my recuperator?

- Your whaaaat?

 

 

 

So, you cannot have a tank in your cellar when you live in Germany, can you?


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0737 AM

Is it perspective or does that 88 FlaK barrel look short to anybody else?

 

And if it was demilled and legaly owned it does look typical European government action.


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 0819 AM

As long as the Panther is not scrapped...


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