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#221 JasonJ

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 0906 AM

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A video of a North Korean anti-air missile shooting down a mock U.S. fighter jet screened on the hermit state's propaganda website on Sunday.

Uploaded on to "Uriminzokkiri TV," North Korea's main propaganda website, the approximately two-minute video titled "Heed our warning" displays a B-1 Lancer bomber in a white crosshair.

"Taking down your fighter jet is easier than swatting a fly on a wall," says the caption before an anti-air missile is shown shooting down the plane.

"Heed our warning. Repent and repent again."

The video ends with an outdated U.S. fighter jet and flag burning on the ground and an outlandish claim that North Korea shot down more than 12,224 U.S fighter jets during the Korean War (1950-53).

 

http://www.koreatime...485_216253.html

 


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#222 Roman Alymov

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 1037 AM

 

Rus coast guard member injured when firefight between Rus assault party who boarded captured North Korean fishing vessel, and Korean crew. Also 9 Koreans injured, one of them later died in hospital.

http://www.fsb.ru/fs...fsbMessage.html

 

The NK crew had firearms?

 

It was more fight then fire exchenge. As far as I understand sequence of events was:

05.20  -NK fishing boat  stopped in Rus exclusive economic zone for checking, search party boarded the ship; illegal catch found aboard; crew was aggressive and uncooperative, so special forces group was called in for support;

16.55 - fishing boat  started moving to NK waters (with Rus personnel still on board), ignoring Rus Coast Guard requests to stop, crew continued aggressive behavior despite of warning shots fired;

19.30 – to prevent ship escaping to NK waters, warning shots fired by Coast Guard ship; ignored;

19.36 – propulsion and control group (tail of the fishing boat ) fired by heavy MG. Ship lost ability to move at 19.44. When fishing boat fired at by Coast Guard ship, crew attacked Rus personnel on board despite warning shots fired. One Rus servicemen got head wounds. To prevent Koreans getting hold of their weapons, Russians opened lethal fire, injuring 9 Koreans, one of them later died 


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#223 Paul G.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 1304 PM

Sheesh.  even their fishermen are complete assholes.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 1455 PM

US-RoK 2+2 talks about extending deterrence could be permanent deployment of US nuclear assets in RoK.

South Korea and the United States have officially begun discussions on the permanent deployment of strategic weapons such as nuclear-capable bombers on the Korean Peninsula.

This was at the top of the agenda in the two plus two high-level security talks among Foreign Minister Yun Byung-se and Defense Minister Han Min-koo, and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Defense Secretary Ash Carter in Washington, Thursday.

Foreign Minister Yun Byung-se told reporters after the meeting that the two defense chiefs will discuss details about how to deploy U.S. strategic assets in South Korea during the annual Security Consultative Meeting (SCM).

The permanent deployment of U.S. strategic assets will be discussed at the defense chiefs talks, he said.

U.S. strategic assets include nuclear-capable B-52 and B-1B bombers, F-22 stealth fighter jets, nuclear-powered attack submarines and nuclear-powered aircraft carriers.

Military sources here said that working-level officials of the two nations have already been talking on permanently deploying B-1B Lancers or Aegis destroyers to South Korea.

Washington has dispatched various assets including strategic bombers and aircraft carriers to the peninsula in a show of force in response to North Koreas major provocations including a nuclear test.

In the wake of the fifth test on Sept. 9, B-1B Lancers stationed on Guam flew over South Korea, while the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76), home-ported at Yokosuka in Japan, sailed to the East Sea to participate in a joint naval exercise.

Pyongyang has reacted sensitively to the U.S. weapons dispatched, but skepticism has also been abounding that their simple flyover or participation in a drill just for a few days is insufficient to effectively deter provocations from the isolated state.

During the two plus two meeting, Seoul and Washington also agreed to begin high-level dialogue to discuss how to carry out the U.S. extended deterrence protection of its Asian ally against nuclear and missile threats from the North.

Extended deterrence refers to Washingtons stated commitment to defend its ally by mobilizing all military capabilities ― nuclear and conventional ― to cope with the Norths aggression and provocations. The U.S. has provided extended deterrence or a nuclear umbrella to South Korea after withdrawing nuclear weapons from the peninsula following the 1991 inter-Korean denuclearization declaration.

The agreement to establish the Extended Deterrence Strategy and Consultation Group (EDSCG) represented a firmer commitment from Washington to defend its ally amid heightened security concerns in Seoul in the wake of the Norths latest nuclear test and a series ballistic missile launches in recent months, officials noted.

I assured the minister of our commitment, the United States commitment, to defend South Korea through a robust combined defensive posture and through extended deterrence, including the U.S. nuclear umbrella, conventional strike and missile defense capabilities, Kerry said during a joint news conference with Yun.

Let me be clear. Any attack on the United States or its allies will be defeated and any use of nuclear weapons will be met with an effective and overwhelming response. To that end, Im pleased that we agreed to establish this dialogue on extended deterrence, he said.

Kerry said the vice-minister-level dialogue will comprise of the foreign and defense ministries of the two countries.

This step were taking on extended deterrence is further evidence of our readiness, our resolve and our determination across governments to protect ourselves from threats from North Korea, Kerry said.

He also said North Korea should be a key focus of the next administration.

According to the joint statement issued after the talks, the secretaries and ministers also agreed to take appropriate measures to ensure the process for the deployment of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) battery continues to move forward without delay.

The allies announced in July that the battery will be deployed here by the end of next year as an effective and necessary measure of self-defense against the Norths evolving missile threats.

Meanwhile, Yun downplayed calls from some politicians here for the nation to be armed with nuclear weapons, saying that South Korea is a member of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that the government ratified in 1975 and has remained formally committed to since then.


https://m.koreatimes..._newsidx=216486

Edited by JasonJ, 20 October 2016 - 1456 PM.

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#225 Josh

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 1613 PM

First, B-1s aren't nuclear capable. Second it they would be needless exposed that far forward (as opposed to Guam). A much better idea would F-15Es; there's more of them and they have shorter legs, so they could benefit by the shorter trip. As far as I know they are the only a/c that can employ SDB to date, so they would have a unique capability to hit a large number of hardened targets with 20 munitions a piece while still carrying AAMs.

EDIT: basing B-61s in the ROK would let everyone involved know we were really serious, though I can't imagine the Koreans are ready to slap China in the balls like that.

Edited by Josh, 20 October 2016 - 1617 PM.

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#226 Roman Alymov

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 0436 AM

Sheesh.  even their fishermen are complete assholes.

According to Rus sources NK fishermen are mainly of military\marines background (not surprising for country with conscript service) and are usually very aggressive and well-coordinated. In fact, they are ready-made military unit, only lacking firearms. 


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 1252 PM

UNSC slow on North Korea

 

The United Nations Security Council is expected to adopt a much-delayed resolution aimed at penalizing North Korea for its latest nuclear test next week as the U.S. and China have narrowed their differences on proposed curbs on its coal exports, diplomatic sources said Wednesday.

"The U.S. and China seem to have narrowed their gap pretty much on an effective and verifiable frame through which they will be able to regulate the North's coal exports," a source close to the matter told Yonhap News Agency on condition of anonymity.

Other sources expected that consultation with the other permanent members of the UNSC including Russia will start soon and that the final version of the resolution will likely be adopted no later than the Thanksgiving holiday that falls in the middle of next week.

In September, the North conducted its fifth and the strongest-ever nuclear test, drawing strong condemnation from the international community.

The UNSC immediately launched the process of drawing up a resolution, but it has been delayed reportedly due in part to a failure by Washington and Beijing to iron out their differences.

The focus has been placed on how to cover the "loopholes" in the previous resolution adopted in March after the North's fourth nuclear test in the same month, which allowed trade related to the livelihood of the North Korean people.

The North is suspected of taking advantage of it in acquiring hard currency necessary to continue its missile and nuclear programs.

The U.S. has pushed to remove the "exception" but failed to enlist support from China, the closest ally to Pyongyang. The North's coal exports account for the largest portion of its trade with China. (Yonhap)

 

http://www.koreatime...485_218321.html


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 1256 PM

Possible 6th test on the way.

 

Looks like it's not going to happen. Although I recall predictions when the 5th one was going to happen and it took awhile before the 5th actually did happen. 


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Posted 16 November 2016 - 1300 PM


Possible 6th test on the way.

 
Looks like it's not going to happen. Although I recall predictions when the 5th one was going to happen and it took awhile before the 5th actually did happen. 

This reading of tea leafs is really annoying. With barely any information they make big predictions when and if bestest Korea is going to do this or that. The information available is less than what we had in the ussr. And there predictions were often widely off.
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Posted 16 November 2016 - 1315 PM

 

 

Possible 6th test on the way.

 
Looks like it's not going to happen. Although I recall predictions when the 5th one was going to happen and it took awhile before the 5th actually did happen. 

This reading of tea leafs is really annoying. With barely any information they make big predictions when and if bestest Korea is going to do this or that. The information available is less than what we had in the ussr. And there predictions were often widely off.

 

 

Pretty much, although at the same time, it may be possible that observations made really were that for nuclear test preparation but then perhaps something happened at the decision making level calling off the test. Pretty much no basis for what I just said, but I won't rule out that possibility. A 6th test so soon after the 5th one might possibly have been a last strike for North Korea. But at the same time, it's certainly possible that news saying that there's a 6th test possible could be hype from the South side. There's really not much information to do either confirm or deny. But careful attention has to be maintained because the moment careful attention slacks, that might be when it is exploited so even a hype may still have a use. I think that as South Korea continues to evolve its economy and diversify industries, such as the entertainment industry, there's a risk of too much of the population forgetting the danger that lurks up north. But, ah well, I know what you mean.


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Posted 17 November 2016 - 0013 AM

The South Korean denial mantra is based on the belief that Pyongyanggese Koreans would never actually harm fellow Koreans, and the comforting knowledge that Pyongyanggese missile development program is targeting Japan and Japanese...else why the need to develop water-crossing missile tech in the first place.


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Posted 17 November 2016 - 0037 AM

The South Korean denial mantra is based on the belief that Pyongyanggese Koreans would never actually harm fellow Koreans, and the comforting knowledge that Pyongyanggese missile development program is targeting Japan and Japanese...else why the need to develop water-crossing missile tech in the first place.


To threaten the South Korea "puppet" master.. the US. Have you never seen those North Korean images of the mushroom cloud over D.C.?
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Posted 17 November 2016 - 1022 AM

I do agree that amongst younger Koreans there seems to be a belief system that the North Koreans would never actually *hurt* South Koreans.


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Posted 11 December 2016 - 1349 PM

Aim to quickly have THAAD deployed by May 2017. Concerns about effect political uncertainties as opposition parties are against THAAD.

 

South Korea is moving to hasten the deployment of an advanced U.S. missile defense system and finish its installation by May at the latest in the face of political uncertainty caused by the impeachment of President Park Geun-hye, government sources said Sunday.

"The deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system seemingly doesn't require much (preparatory) time, since the Seongju golf course is already equipped with power and water supply facilities, and a traffic system," said an official of the Ministry of National Defense, on condition of anonymity.

The move is seen as an effort to cope with uncertainties, as opposition parties are opposed to the deployment of THAAD. If the Constitutional Court endorses the impeachment, the next presidential election must be held within 60 days by law.

Earlier in November, the ministry vowed to secure the Lotte Skyhill Country Club in the southeastern rural county of Seongju as the site of THAAD. In exchange, the ministry is pushing to grant state-owned military land near Seoul to Lotte Group, the golf course's former owner. The ministry expects to seal the exchange deal in January 2016, hoping to finish constructing the facility within six months.

A United States Forces Korea official earlier said the deployment of THAAD will be completed by the end of June next year.

A Defense Ministry office said it will consider skipping an environmental impact study to speed up the process.

Rep. Kim Dong-cheol, the new interim leader of the minor opposition People's Party, said last Friday that sensitive and important security issues, such as THAAD and a military information exchange accord with Japan, should be reviewed by the government of next president on the basis of national consensus. (Yonhap)

 

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 1016 AM

I don't think you'll see THAAD deployed, ultimately. I think you'll find that if China actually follows through with sanctions on Bestest Korea, and they have stopped importing coal for the rest of the year supposedly, that ultimately the US or the ROK will renege on the deployment. I smell what the ROK is cooking...
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Posted 12 December 2016 - 1023 AM

Makes sense, if China goes through with NK sanctions, and so long as NK doesn't continue nuke and BM tests, then THAAD no longer would be needed and the condition of THAAD deployment would have served a purpose.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 1518 PM

I feel for China to actually step in and do something that yes, under the table that was offered. THAAD won't be directly linked to the Chinese action but it will have been agreed to ahead of time behind the scenes.
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 0132 AM

https://youtu.be/6McDkNXYypk

DPRK commandos practice Blue House raid via tandem parachutes and MD530.

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 0751 AM

I wonder what kind of aircraft they jumped out from.


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 0755 AM

South Korea importing German Taurus missiles for F-15K.

 

SEOUL, Oct. 15 (Yonhap) -- Dozens of air-to-ground guided missiles capable of targeting and destroying North Korea's nuclear and missile facilities at a long distance are being transported to South Korea from Germany, a government source here said Saturday.

Germany's Taurus Systems GmbH sent the first shipment of 170 KEPD-350K missiles after a ceremony in Schrobenhausen where the company headquarters is located on Friday, the source said. The ceremony was also attended by South Korean defense acquisition and Air Force officials.

The missiles are set to be sequentially shipped to South Korea by 2017. The military plans to acquire 90 more to boost its capabilities to cope with mounting military threats from North Korea.

The Taurus missile can be mounted on the South Korean Air Force's main F-15K fighters and can be used to hit the capital city of Pyongyong while the planes are flying safely over Daejeon, 164 kilometers south of Seoul.

If the Taurus missiles, with a range of over 500 km, are added to the Air Force's inventory, South Korea will be the first operator of fighter jets in Asia equipped with the advanced system.

 

http://english.yonha...001200315F.html

 

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